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Satan... is an Isopod? 7/17/07 Bob, I swear, if I believed there was a Satan, I imagine this is what s/he would look like: http://www.quartzcity.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/giant-isopod.jpg ;-) Sara <Heeee! Can you imagine being on the deep sea floor bottom with a whole bunch of these ginormous rolly pollies!? No thanks! B>
Re: oh, and good luck, Isopod ID 5/24/07 Good luck finding someone to ID isopods!!! I did a summer of that as fresh marine biology graduate for an environmental survey company. And isopods were possibly the worst things to ID. I'm impressed if a layman can get them down to family level by eye; even with a microscope doing much better than genus was often impossible. Cheers, Neale <Ah, yes... I sorted and Id'd benthic marine invert.s (mainly Errantiate polychaetes) locally for a couple of years as a grad student... Some eye strain now! BobF> -Possible Isopod issues- 1/20/06 Hello all! <Hello, Justin with you this evening.> First of all, THANK YOU so very much for your amazing site! It is such a wealth of fantastic information, and is truly (in my humble opinion) the best wet-pet resource on the web! <Well its all due to many people who help, and the crew here. Ill pass your thanks on to Bob.> I currently maintain a 120G fish-only tank. In addition to the 3" puffer (Diodon holocanthus), there is also a 4" angel (Pomacanthus imperator), 4" lion (Pterois volitans) and a couple of small (1-1.5") damsels. Salinity - 1.021, Temp - 80*F, Ammonia - 0, Nitrites - 0; Nitrates - 5ppm. <An interesting mix, have you seen any aggression out of the Lionfish? most of the time puffers, and lions may squabble, much to the lions detriment when the puffer breaks off spins or nips fins. do keep an eye out for long term issues. You also will probably need a bit bigger tank long term for these guys as all the fish get to 15" + other than the damsels.> A couple of days ago, I noticed a small white spot medial to my puffer's left eye. The spot does not look like Oodinium or ick, but is rather large (2-3mm) and flat. This morning, I noticed two more ventral spots... also 2-3mm each, flat, and completely circular! They do not look like any sort of parasite that I know of, and it seems very strange to acquire trauma with those manifestations. Also, the spots are bright solid white, and almost appear "indented" into the skin. What on earth could this be? <The indented part seems very odd, as most parasites are bulges outward or bumps. It may be an isopod of some sort that has decided to attach on. they can be fairly easily treated in hypo salinity dips or by using a anti parasite medicine in a hospital tank for a few days. However, From what you are saying it is hard to give you a definite answer on it. Can you maybe send in a good photo of the area in question. It would be much more helpful in identifying the culprit if one exists. Also herding the puffer into a container and gently rubbing the area to see if it comes off or is an actual indentation may save you further headache here. My puffer enjoys digging up substrate (I have sand) and little pieces get stuck in the spines and look very odd and are a similar size to what you are saying. Also mine enjoys playing in the sump return pipe and getting micro bubbles all over him as well. It could be a benign item like that.> His attitude is perky as always, and he is eating great! I am at a loss on this one... any ideas? <You have me a bit stumped as well on this, but Id check the basics first, and a gentle rubbing of your finger on the area may reveal a simple answer to your concern. Try watching it for now and see if any more appear or if they disappear all together. I will forward this to Bob for some further ideas. If you can grab a photograph of the area and send it in as I said above, it may be much more telling.> Thanks in advance for everything! Christine <Thank you for being clear, and including everything tank wise I needed to know to focus on the issue. Hope we can figure this out.> <Justin (Jager)>
SW hitchhiker thing Hello gang, <Bryan> Hope all is well. I have a small 20g tank with a 2-1/2" Taenianotus Leaf Scorpion. Tank parameters are temp: 76-77F, NH3:0, NO2:0, NO3:20, Sal:30. Co-habitants include many Columbellid snails, 2 or 3 Clibanarius hermits, 1-1/2" Mithraculus type crab, Zoanthid polyps, a bundle of Chaetomorpha, and the usual micro/macro tag-a-longs. Filtration is by AquaC Remora and 25% IO water change weekly. The fish did a 4 week QT, no copper, no hypo or F/W dip. The rest of the tank (including live rock) was directly introduced. I noted this character on the surface film, 1/8" in diameter resembling a small freshwater Argulus louse. It breaks the surface tension and begins floating downward. I can see a swimming or oscillating motion but the sucker descends in a straight path... until it contacts the Leaf Scorpion and gloms onto the fish's side. The Scorpion reacts by doing its side-to-side thing. By morning, the little arthropod-y thing is gone. So... Is this little creature familiar to anyone? I realize the description is vague and pictures non-existent but was hoping that it is a common, non-pathogenic fellow. I will also check with Shimek. Thanks Bryan <Is it grey/ish in color... Please see here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/isopoda.htm. Bob Fenner> Unidentified Creatures, Friend Or Foe? - -05/07/05 Dear WWM crew, Although I haven't heard back from you with regards to my last e-mail, I did in fact find a picture on-line of my mystery creature and I'm afraid it isn't good news. It's described as a my isopod although google didn't give me any links when I tried that word. I've attached the picture to this e-mail. The website for Tampa Bay Live Rock is where I found this picture and they recommend that you remove it immediately as it will act as a fish parasite. Do you know anything about these creatures? <What you have is an "isopod"...I believe the "my" was used to show possession as in "hey! That's my isopod" <G>. These organisms are indeed parasitic, have a read here http://www.wetwebmedia.com/isopodfaqs.htm and on the associated links in blue.> Thank you again for everything that you guys do! Best wishes, Karen <Regards, Eric R.> Isopod with a taste for Beef Steak Dear Bob, <Bob is out right now. Mike G here> I just woke up this morning to find that my young tomato clown, BeefSteak, had some sort of external parasite attached to his posterior dorsal fin. <Never a good sign.> The organism appears fairly complex and I can observe a segmented body along with two spots which seem to be eyes. I would estimate it's size to be somewhere around 2-4mm in length and of a light grey color, darker grey near the head. <Sounds to me like a Cirolanid Isopod> My best guess would be that this is some form of an isopod although I've never seen one attached to a fin in this way and it is rather small. <Everything starts small and grows when provided with nourishment. In this case, your fish is providing the nourishment.> I don't know if I'd be able to get the little clown out of my 55 gallon reef without destroying anything in the process. Do you think I should worry about this little parasite, because I most definitely am. <ANYTHING attached to and feeding on your fish should concern you.> I mainly do not want him spreading to any of my other fish. Any information you can give me would be much appreciated. <Here are a few articles and FAQs on Cirolanid Isopods. http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-05/rs/index.htm http://www.wetwebmedia.com/isopoda.htm http://www.wetwebmedia.com/isopodfaqs.htm I wish you the best of luck in exterminating this parasite. Mike G> External Parasite Good day, <And thou> I recently purchased a Percula Clown fish and he is doing well. The next morning I observed something attached to his rear tail fin. It was transparent like having 2 small black eyes and many little legs underneath. It was almost like a pill bug but more skinny in width and see through (you can see its insides). It even had a tail of some sort and closely resembles a small crustacean or something. What is this? <Likely as you describe, infer... a parasitic isopod> I immediately removed the clown fish and placed him in a freshwater dip for about 3 minutes. This thing obviously didn't like the fresh water and soon fell off swimming in circles on the bottom and eventually dying. <Good move!> Did this thing come from the live rock in the tank (I have 27 pounds in a 55 gallon setup). It obviously came from somewhere because it was not attached to the clown when I purchased him at the store. I searched long and hard to find a photo of this thing and I can't find out what it was. So far this is an isolated incident. Should I be on the lookout for more or should some sort of treatment be started. Or, did I do the right thing and I can sit back and relax because this won't hurt the fish. If this happens again do I proceed the same way? <Yes, yes, yes> Thanks for taking the time to help, Dave <Take a read here Dave: http://wetwebmedia.com/isopoda.htm and the Related FAQs (linked, in blue, at top)... such incidents are rare, but do happen in aquariums. Bob Fenner> External Parasite Good day,<Hello, MikeB here.> I recently purchased a Percula Clown fish and he is doing well. The next morning I observed something attached to his rear tail fin. It was transparent like having 2 small black eyes and many little legs underneath. It was almost like a pill bug but more skinny in width and see through (you can see its insides). It even had a tail of some sort and closely resembles a small crustacean or something. What is this? I immediately removed the clown fish and placed him in a freshwater dip for about 3 minutes. This thing obviously didn't like the fresh water and soon fell off swimming in circles on the bottom and eventually dying. Did this thing come from the live rock in the tank (I have 27 pounds in a 55 gallon setup). It obviously came from somewhere because it was not attached to the clown when I purchased him at the store. I searched long and hard to find a photo of this thing and I can't find out what it was. So far this is an isolated incident. Should I be on the lookout for more or should some sort of treatment be started. Or, did I do the right thing and I can sit back and relax because this won't hurt the fish. If this happens again do I proceed the same way? Thanks for taking the time to help, Dave <Dave, try looking up Planarian on the internet. My hunch is that it is a flatworm parasite. It can be prevalent in fish that are purchase and not quarantined for an extended amount of time. I would suggest keeping a close eye on the fish an make sure it doesn't come back. If it does then quarantine it. Thanks MikeB.> <<Likely is a pill bug... a parasitic Isopod. RMF>>
Parasitic Isopods Hello guys! <Hi there! Scott F. in today> I really need some help. I just set up a new 150 gallon reef and released some fish I've had for some time into it. About a week later (last night) I discovered a small (1/8 to perhaps 1/4 inches) isopod has attached itself to the tail of one of my pajama cardinals. <Yuck> I have not had a chance to even try to capture the fish yet. I know I must capture and remove. I guess what I am asking is I have heard that once you have one (one RC) you likely have a lot more and a typical nightmare. Please tell me this isn't true. It doesn't say that in Bob's book! If it is what should I do? Thank you all so much. Brian <Well, Brian- where there is one, there could be others. Don't run off headless and do something that you'll regret later. Short of "nuking" the tank with aggressive medications (which I DO NOT recommend), you just need to stay very vigilant, and be prepared to remove any fishes that become afflicted with these guys in the future. Remain calm, observe your fish very carefully, and stay alert! Sometimes the best course of action is not to do anything...Regards, Scott F> Pesticides for killing isopods... Ahhhh, No. 5/10/04 Hi Guy's <howdy!> Great site! <thanks kindly> Was wondering what your thoughts are on the use of dog heartworm medication (Melbemycine oxime) to eradicate Cirolanid Isopods. <a dreadful idea/advocation... its efficacy runs the gamut, but more importantly, it will kill far many more desirable crustaceans in the main display than bad ones. The bad ones should be/have been easily screened in a proper 4 week quarantine on arrival> I'm aware I'll loose all crustaceans, at least the ones I don't remove, but see very few options. <Ahhh.. OK. Although I cannot agree> I believe they arrived in the aqua cultured LR that I cycled the tank with. <yes... they are common in Florida live rock... especially that dreadful heavy stuff from shallow coastal waters (many parasites there)> Tank has been up and running for about 6 months. The predatory Isopods made their presence know, at least to me, only this past week. I've caught and removed 3 pods from two different fish. <sigh... I regret you have learned this way as many of us do. But QT is not an option, and must be done for all things wet: fishes, corals, live rock, sand, plants... everything! There are too many pests, predators and diseases that can and will be carried in with live products> A tank raised Perc. And a bi-color angel. The tank is 72g bow front, 85lbs of LR, 4inch sand bed, Thanks for your thoughts on this. Mike <remove the fishes to QT and trap for isopods in the display with meat. Read more on this in the FAQs on this subject in our archives at wetwebmedia.com. Anthony>
Isopods? 4/6/04 Much appreciated Anthony. I really cannot track anything back to an Atlantic addition to this new tank. <and they are not restricted to the Atlantic, or even tropical waters for that matter - they are global... like Elvis. They simply are most common in our hobby from Atlantic substrates> The only things that had been in the tank when they were first noticed are sand (CaribSea) new bags, and Marshall Island Live rock from Premium Aquatics. Tank and all filtration were new. It has to be the LR! <yes> I am going to set up a trap method tonight with 1" airline tube, filter floss, and thawed fish. I could seal and send you a specimen? <I'm really not an expert on microcrustaceans... Ron Shimek really is more experienced/able and interested in such matters. Do consult him at reefcentral.com to send a sample perhaps> Any thought on taking a good out of water pic? Steve <above or below the water in a confined area (deli cup perhaps)... I prefer using a flash most always for fast shutter speed. Anthony> Parasitic Isopods And The Aquarists Who Hate Them! Thank you for your reply, Scott. I originally believed that velvet killed my new fish and did not look very closely at the dead bodies for other causes. The velvet was so obviously all over each fish. Now that I have found the isopods, I also wonder if they played any role in the fish deaths, and that I simply did not think to look for multiple causes at the time. I'm beginning to think these isopods may not parasitic. From a couple of sources, it is said that isopods which can roll up and swim upside down will be detritivores. My bugs do both, but I am still very confused. <I have not heard that, but it seems like an interesting theory! I suppose that they could have played some sort of role, but I agree that velvet was probably the primary killer..> As you stated in an earlier reply that feeding the tank meaty foods would definitely prolong the parasitic isopods' lives. Are you now saying that any decaying food, even plant matter, would give these guys enough to eat until a tasty fish comes their way? <In theory, yes! That's why it is tough to eradicate these little pests.> If so, I'm sort of scr*wed, then, aren't I? <Nope...Just challenged...You will win this battle...> How about if I add household non-scented ammonia to the tank instead of meaty or vegetable foods that will decay? <Personally, if it were me, I'd simply leave things alone, and I'd conduct regular maintenance on the tank. I believe that respiration and metabolic processes of the existing fauna in the tank will provide sufficient ammonia to keep things going> The tank is 72g, with 80+ lbs of LR, lots of soft corals, some unidentified but beautiful macroalgae, 3" aragonite sandbed, and about a mix of 30 Astrea and margarita snails. Any suggestions to save the tank but kill off the isopods, if they prove to be parasitic, are very, very welcome. Again, thank you for your time and expertise. <Well, it is certainly possible to employ biological controls, such as hogfish, and Meiacanthus species blennies, to mention a few. They are not 100% reliable, but they have been cited by some hobbyists to be predators against these little nasties. In the end, careful observation and patience will be the best counterattack for you. Remember, although they can be dangerous, many fishes can survive the attacks of these creatures until you can treat them. Usually, very small fishes or fry are more likely to suffer fatal occurrences as a result of isopods. Again, I think that diligence and patience on your part will win out. Short of totally breaking down the tank, this is your best strategy! Good luck! Regards, Scott F.>
Sweetlips Isopod I saw your article "Grunts, Porkfish & Sweetlips" online and your photograph of a Diagramma pictum with a couple of parasitic isopods on its head. Did you collect any of these isopods? <No, just took the picture> Would you like to have them identified? When was the photograph taken? <In Pulau Redang, Malaysia, about two years ago> Thank you. Bert Ernest H. Williams, PhD, Prof., Dept. Marine Sciences, Univ. Puerto Rico <Thank you for your interest, offer. Bob Fenner> Parasitic Isopods 6/11/03 I recently managed to capture a small .5 inch isopod in my 10 gallon reef aquarium. <yikes!> Amazingly, I had to pull an all nighter to capture this bug in a mantis shrimp trap in which we thought the isopod was a mantis. I have tried the last several nights to find another one using the same method, yet i have not seen one since. <indeed... many are only nocturnal> I am not quite sure if they are all gone, or maybe i have more, so i was wondering if there might be any more methods of capturing another and possibly the babies. Alex <meat in a cage... literally. And a sacrificial fish in a mesh container just the same if you must. These parasites can be scary and hard to remove. They certainly can bite you just the same... look out :p Anthony> Question about an Isopod in my Tank. Hi, I have recently
cycled my tank and I am noticed tons of these little guys running
around my tank. They seem to hang around the back wall and
on the glass. <Thus far> I recently moved and I have
all my fish in a 100 g Rubbermaid stock tank for the last 3 months
during the setup and cycling of my new tank. I put 300lbs of
Fiji rock into the tank to start a new system. I am ready to start
adding my fish, but I am extremely worried that I might have the BAD
isopods and I do not want to expose my fish to them. <Me too> I
have some pictures of the creatures as well as a thread I started on
reefcentral.com trying to get some information about them. I
got some responses but nothing definite. If you could please
take a look at the thread, here you can download the images and
possible, hopefully let me know if I am ok or not. I really
want to put my fish into the new system but I don't want to hurt
them. <Will look> I know you guys are extremely busy,
but if you could take a quick peek and maybe get back to me today that
would be extremely awesome! I met Bob Fenner at a talk he
did here in Colorado at Marine Showcase. I think he would
remember me, my company is designing and building the website for
Aqua-Medic USA. <Ah yes, I recall> Here is the link to that
thread: <A href=" http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=196239">http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=196239
> Thank you, John Michael <I would try a "test fish"
here... perhaps a damsel or two... to see if this species of isopod is
a "fish eater" or no. Bob Fenner> Creature from movie" Alien" has got my pajama cardinal! Guys, woke up today to find this creature, isopod i guess, clamped on the face, mouth, of my cardinal. Did not look like the poor fish could open his mouth, just like in the Alien movie. Tried to catch fish but impossible in 450 reef tank. Worried these monsters could get out of control, only seen one though. Does any type of fish eat these things? <Not really. Good idea to get/use a fish trap (these are sold in the pet-fish industry (there's an ad in FAMA currently...) or from large warehouse stores (they're the same plastic traps for small rodents, but no fish sticker...> I recently moved a few pieces of rock from refugium to main tank and assume that is how this thing got into main tank. It is quite large, over 1/4 inch. Thanks, Paul <Maybe... bizarre. Catch the host, remove and toss. Bob Fenner> Cirolanid Isopod Hey bob, I've noticed a wide spread of Cirolanid Isopods in my 18gal live rock tank. I'm guessing the liverock has introduced them into my tank. I read that you recommended a wrasse in trying to exterminate these "bugs". What type would you recommend? <Mmm, would try baiting, trapping these out in such a small system... likely any Labrid that might do the job would be too big. You can make a tube (plastic pipe, clear or not) lightly stuffed with "filter fiber" with a meaty food in the middle... and "fish" at night> Would a common cleaner wrasse do the job? <No> thanks, Jason <Catch them, remove them, study them. Bob Fenner>
Cirolanid isopods I hope I'm being helpful... What I've found so far: Fresh water dips may or may not be effective. Reports of these things living for hours in freshwater are not uncommon. Some respond immediately to freshwater dips, others not. <Yes> Putting raw fish into a narrow necked vase can be used to trap them. I'll assume that the cut off coke bottle top inverted into bottom of the bottle would work as well, but see no reports. <Can work... I like a clear tube (plastic, glass) with coarse filter fiber jammed on either side of the meat bait... to entangle the to-be-removed pests (so they don't get out when you're retrieving the trap). The white polyethylene "Grobflocken" by Eheim is best IMO here> There is some talk of juvenile hogfish being effective, but some doubt among others. Some report of Canary blennies, but they seem not to be effective. It seems that the pods will attach to the inside of the blenny's mouth, tongue, or gills and drop off as though it were external upon lights on. The hogfish are reported to be smart enough to chew before swallowing. They reproduce sexually, about 30 at a time. I'm trying the vase method. We'll see. Some have reported trapping over a hundred of them. Reef Central is replete with mail and articles on the critters. <Thank you for this. Bob Fenner>
Parasitic Isopod I have a 90 gallon tank that's about three weeks old and is still going through the cycling process. I have a yellow tailed damsel an a domino damsel in the tank. I added some Fiji live rock that was cured in a LFS for 3-4 weeks. It is covered with coralline algae. Everything has been going well until this morning when I discovered (what I believe to be) a parasitic isopod attached to the domino damsel at the base of the anal fin. The domino also has some white abrasion/patches near his head (Last night when I turned the light off on the tank he looked perfect). The parasite is a yellowish color about 1/8+ of an inch long. I couldn't catch the damsel (they are fast little suckers) this morning before work so I decided that I would remove the rock from the tank and try to catch him this afternoon when I had more time. I called my wife a few hours later and she said that the parasite was no longer attached to the damsel. My questions are as follows: 1. What is this parasite and what do I need to do to get rid of it? <Likely an isopod as you state. Ridding it involves catching the host, and gingerly prying the crustacean off with tweezers... It is likely still in the tank... maybe even... Shades of Silence of the Damsels... in the fish's mouth!... check there... a common spot, attached to the palatine bones... removal, the same> 2. Why did it fall off? Is it because of the light, was it full from eating on the damsel or is it going to multiply and infest my tank? <Maybe any of these... but not reproducing on its own...> 3. What other parasites do I need to look out for from the Fiji live rock? <This is a very long list... but likely not to be the cause... the isopod likely was on the fish... not the rock... > 4. I've always heard that live rock is so good for marine systems, but now I have at least one type of parasite and god knows how many others. If I treat the tank with medications I will end up killing most of the beneficial organisms and bacteria along with the parasites. It seems like a waste to even use live rock. I've seen so much enfaces placed on quarantining fish and killing the parasites that come along for the ride on newly acquired livestock but no mention anywhere about the potential problems with live rock other than curing it, bristle worms and mantis shrimps. <The rock is overwhelmingly a good idea... and very unlikely a source of parasitic problems> 5. What do I do? Thanks, Tom Hettleman P.S. I have your book " the Contentious Marine Aquarist". It's one of the best books I've read on the subject. Thanks again! >> Contentious? Conscientious? You're making my day. Do just keep your eye on your livestock, and system, and try not to over worry... All will work out. Bob Fenner I have a powder brown tang which has picked up a quarter of an inch long light brown crustacean on its anal fin. The bug looks kind of like a terrestrial rolly poly or pill bug. Also this thing seems to be pinching the fin. I already have a cleaner wrasse and shrimp. Do you know what this thing is and if and how I should get rid of it? I bought your book this weekend and there the bug was right on page 148. Also I have a white faced tang and I now feel pretty bad about buying that cleaner wrasse. Anyway the copepod disappeared after about 8 hours so I assume the cleaners got it. I am glad I bought your book. It answered a lot of questions and gave me a lot of ideas. Thanks for your time and Ill investigate further before submitting a question. Everett West >> Yes, this is a parasitic isopod... an aquatic type of rolly poly... and it is best to remove it by catching the fish and prising it off with a stout tweezers... Get ready and at the same time, daub a little mercurochrome or Merthiolate on the remaining sore with a "q-tip"... Bob Fenner Isolating Isopods Hi JasonC, Good job filling in for Bob. <<why thank you... >> Can you give me some advice. I have a Sailfin tang with a parasite hanging on to its bottom fin. I'm pretty sure the parasite came in on a piece of liverock, but regardless its there. The thing looks like a white worm. Maybe 1/16 of a inch long and 1/32 of an inch thick. Pretty small but large enough to see some features on the parasite. I first noticed it about 2 weeks ago, and since it has doubled in size. There is now a small hole developing in the fin where the things mouth is. The tang does not show any signs that he is distressed yet, but I am afraid of letting this thing get to big, or if it reproduces god help me. I have a cleaner shrimp that cleans the tang from time to time, but the shrimp never touches this fin. I waited these two weeks hoping the shrimp would get it, but to no avail. Do you suggest a neon goby or cleaner wrasse to be added to the tank? If I could catch the tang (yeah right), would a fresh water dip be a better option? Would scraping it off with my nail work again if I could catch the tang. Last night I did notice 2 tiny white dots on another fin. I'm afraid these are small versions of the same parasite. <<Two courses of action here that I can think of, and both will require you to catch the fish. You can either manually remove the isopod, either with your fingers or tweezers OR freshwater dip it off - either one will work - the manual method will probably be quickest with the lowest trauma to the fish. Doubt the small dots you are seeing are the same thing, but if you've got one, you could have two... keep your eye on it.>> Thanks Mike T <<Cheers, J -- >> Help with Treating Parasitic Isopods, Copepods Bob, <<Not Bob, but JasonC filling in while Bob is away diving.>> I visit your site quite frequently and have found it to be extremely helpful. <<happy to hear it.>> I have a bit of a problem. I have had my tank for about a year now. 55 gallon Marine setup with Emperor BioWheel filter, Protein skimmer, UV, Magnum 350 canister filter. FO tank. It seems I have a parasite problem, but I need some help to identify and eradicate it. My Lunar Wrasse had been acting very strangely for a few weeks. He is losing his appetite more and more these days. There were no visible signs of parasites. All other fish were OK. Within the past week, I noticed a lump developing just above his belly and saw a few spots on his face. Upon closer inspection, the spots appeared to be something "hitching a ride" on his face. They are under 1/8th of an inch in size, translucent white, and oval in shape. They appear to be attached at a single point... otherwise free floating. Tried to figure out what they may be, but can't find anything on the site. <<sounds like isopods - little "pill-bug" type things?>> Even more disturbing is my clown trigger now seems to have a couple of these hitching a ride on his eyeballs. <<that doesn't sound like fun at all.>> All other fish are still OK. Today, I noticed that the wrasse now has a small hole in the lump on his belly, almost as if something was nesting under his flesh and decided it wanted out (Almost seems like the movie alien!) <<that would definitely be no fun>> SG=1.23 Ammonia=0 Nitrites=0 Nitrates=60. I feel as though I keep the water quality at its finest at all times. <<those nitrates could be a great deal lower, say between five and ten.>> The only variable that has changed is that I lost a Kole Tang due to HLLE, so I replaced him with another. I know I SHOULD be using a q-tank for newbies, but I haven't had a problem thus far without one. <<ok, but you are going to get one now, yes?>> Please help. I'm not sure what it is I'm dealing with. <<really does sound like isopods>> I know the worst thing to do would be to panic and throw all sorts of chemicals in the tank (a bitter lesson I learned the hard way when I started the tank!), but I want to keep this problem under control. No inverts, so I could use copper if need be. Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated! <<Well... most times isopods are best removed with tweezers and are much like pulling ticks off a dog. Your clown trigger though, I don't think I would advise this here as you'd end up with a blind fish. You should probably try an extended [longer than normal], pH adjusted freshwater dip, perhaps even with Methylene-blue to help ease the whole thing. Check the link for Bob's protocols for dipping your fish: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/dips_baths.htm and the isopods... http://www.wetwebmedia.com/parasiti.htm >> Thanks, Jon Beeson <<You are quite welcome. Cheers, J -- >> Help with Treating Parasitic Isopods, Copepods... (continued) Thanks for the advice.... but now another twist to the plot... This morning, I noticed a brown wormlike parasite protruding from the wrasse's lump. <<Egads>> Should he be removed from the tank? Is this a danger to the other livestock? <<well, you've obviously got these and other things a-plenty so if the fish aren't in danger today, they will be in time. I would definitely take action.>> The wrasse likes to sleep under the substrate... could this have contributed to him getting this worm? <<sounds quite likely but impossible to know for sure.>> Also, how do I treat this worm? Can I pull it out of him with tweezers? <<could, I think I would try the extended, pH-adjusted, freshwater dip and start with that... go after it with the tweezers as a last resort. Many worms can lose an entire chunk of themselves and never miss a beat - grow it all back - kinda like a bad monster movie. If you were to pull at it with tweezers and only get a chunk, likely the rest would survive just fine in your wrasse - nasty. Try the FW dip first.>> Thanks in advance. Jon <<Cheers, J -- >> Creature from movie" Alien" has got my pajama cardinal! Guys, woke up today to find this creature, isopod I guess, clamped on the face, mouth, of my cardinal. Did not look like the poor fish could open his mouth, just like in the Alien movie. Tried to catch fish but impossible in 450 reef tank. Worried these monsters could get out of control, only seen one though. Does any type of fish eat these things? <Not really. Good idea to get/use a fish trap (these are sold in the pet-fish industry (there's an ad in FAMA currently...) or from large warehouse stores (they're the same plastic traps for small rodents, but no fish sticker...> I recently moved a few pieces of rock from refugium to main tank and assume that is how this thing got into main tank. It is quite large, over 1/4 inch. Thanks, Paul <Maybe... bizarre. Catch the host, remove and toss. Bob Fenner> External Parasite Good day,<Hello, MikeB here.> I recently purchased a Percula Clown fish and he is doing well. The next morning I observed something attached to his rear tail fin. It was transparent like having 2 small black eyes and many little legs underneath. It was almost like a pill bug but more skinny in width and see through (you can see its insides). It even had a tail of some sort and closely resembles a small crustacean or something. What is this? I immediately removed the clown fish and placed him in a freshwater dip for about 3 minutes. This thing obviously didn't like the fresh water and soon fell off swimming in circles on the bottom and eventually dying. Did this thing come from the live rock in the tank (I have 27 pounds in a 55 gallon setup). It obviously came from somewhere because it was not attached to the clown when I purchased him at the store. I searched long and hard to find a photo of this thing and I can't find out what it was. So far this is an isolated incident. Should I be on the lookout for more or should some sort of treatment be started. Or, did I do the right thing and I can sit back and relax because this won't hurt the fish. If this happens again do I proceed the same way? Thanks for taking the time to help, Dave <Dave, try looking up Planarian on the internet. My hunch is that it is a flatworm parasite. It can be prevalent in fish that are purchase and not quarantined for an extended amount of time. I would suggest keeping a close eye on the fish an make sure it doesn't come back. If it does then quarantine it. Thanks MikeB.> <<Likely is a pill bug... a parasitic Isopod. RMF>> Fish parasites Hello whoever is there today. << Blundell today. >> Thanks for your recent help with my Cyanobacteria problem. I took all your advice and the outbreak has all but cleared. I need some more help today please. A few days ago my Clarks clown had a parasite (fluke) hanging off the side of his body. Looked like a small flat flake. While I was getting ready to try and net him, whatever the parasite was disappeared - must have fallen off. Now my peach Anthias has a small raw looking area on its body just in front of the tail fin. I don't know if the 2 incidents are related at all or is this is a bacterial infection. The colour has disappeared in a small patch on the flesh and there appears to be a little hole on its body. << Doesn't sound good. >> I have tried in vain to catch this fish, nets, traps aren't working. He is swimming and eating normally. Can you suggest anything to put into the tank to help with this fish. << Adding garlic to the food for sure. Also, I'd consider getting a cleaner shrimp if you don't already have one. >> What do you think of trying something like garlic extract, or Rally? << Great idea. >> I have a 75 gallon reef tank with live rock, many corals, 2 bubble anemones which have been splitting regularly so I am loathe to remove them, and lots of snails, hermit crabs, 2 starfish, a sea urchin and a very healthy worm population - besides my fish. I don't want to upset the equilibrium. The LFS said that a UV sterilizer may work. << Yeah that is costly, but it may help in this case. >><No... RMF> I have been soaking the fish food with Selco to try boost the fishes resistance and have also raised the salinity of the water to 1.025 to discourage parasites. I would welcome your opinion. << The salinity treatment is backwards. To discourage parasites you lower the salinity. Lets say down to 1.020. This isn't good for your corals and other inverts, which is the trade off. But I wouldn't be raising it. >> Many thanks, Sharon J << Blundell >> Parasitic Isopods Hello guys! <Hi there! Scott F. in today> I really need some help. I just set up a new 150 gallon reef and released some fish I've had for some time into it. About a week later (last night) I discovered a small (1/8 to perhaps 1/4 inches) isopod has attached itself to the tail of one of my pajama cardinals. <Yuck> I have not had a chance to even try to capture the fish yet. I know I must capture and remove. I guess what I am asking is I have heard that once you have one (one RC) you likely have a lot more and a typical nightmare. Please tell me this isn't true. It doesn't say that in Bob's book! If it is what should I do? Thank you all so much. Brian <Well, Brian- where there is one, there could be others. Don't run off headless and do something that you'll regret later. Short of "nuking" the tank with aggressive medications (which I DO NOT recommend), you just need to stay very vigilant, and be prepared to remove any fishes that become afflicted with these guys in the future. Remain calm, observe your fish very carefully, and stay alert! Sometimes the best course of action is not to do anything...Regards, Scott F> |
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