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Golden Dwarf Eel Problems
4/17/17
Hello,
<Natalie>
I have a golden dwarf moray eel that started having some significant behavioral
changes about a month ago. He started breathing harder and faster and started
refusing food when he would normally eat vigorously.
<The two principal issues of environment and nutrition come to mind
immediately... Too little DO, too much organic content and Thiaminase poisoning
in particular>
Now he stays on the floor of the tank and doesn't move much, seeming to have a
bit of difficulty swimming, though he stays upright and is responsive to
stimuli. He moved to a spot where I could get a good look at his body today
and I think his stomach area may be a bit distended and a bit dark. I have had
him for about a year during which he has been thriving, and he lived in someone
else's tank for some time before he was brought to the store I worked at. I
don't know what he was being fed or how often by his previous owner, but I have
been feeding him once a week, primarily feeding squid, shrimp, and
silversides (squid was his favorite).
<Trouble. Vitamin B issue at least a factor here. DO read HERE:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/volume_6_1/thiaminase.htm
NEED to change this diet, and likely supplement/soak foods to restore balance>
He is in a 12g
<... much too small... the other issues alluded to... likely
insufficient dissolved oxygen... other variable water quality problems. NEEDS a
bigger, more stable world>
with no other fish, just a few snails and hermit crabs, and some rocks from his
original tank with plenty of caves and tunnels. There are a few corals, mostly
Zoanthids,
<Toxic>
and no anemones or other strong stingers. Water parameters are very stable.
Temp: 78 F
Nitrate: <10 ppm
Nitrite: 0 ppm
Ammonia: 0 ppm
pH: 8.4
Salinity: 1.024
<All these values are good>
The tank is very well-oxygenated, and I think I've gotten him to eat a scrap or
two of garlic-soaked squid and octopus during this time period, though I am
unsure as I had to leave it in front of him and check back a few minutes later
as he won't tong-feed anymore. I used to dose iodine for my corals as I was
unaware that eels needed this, I stopped about six months ago and have recently
taken up dosing once a week again after reading some of your articles. Do you
think the possible stomach swelling could be goiter or constipation?
<Possibly; yes>
Is it too late for him to recover, and if not, about what time frame should I
expect recovery to occur in?
<Not too late>
I have been worried sick over him and really do not want to lose him. Should I
continue to try to offer food? I have not attempted any feeding for about a
week. Any other suggestions?
<The Thiaminase reading and action>
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Re: Golden Dwarf Eel Problems
4/17/17
Thank you, the article was very helpful. A few follow-up questions:
I bought some Vitality and fresh predator mix food which I soaked and added
garlic
<Worthless>
to, but it seems like it won't make a difference if he won't eat. I left a small
piece of clam meat in front of him and he sniffed around for a bit but just
curled around it and did nothing for several minutes until a hermit crab got to
it. Can I add a small amount of Vitality to the water to help a little bit?
<Might help>
I know it's no substitute for soaked food, but I want to try and make some
progress. How often should I try offering food?
<Read on. B>
Thank you,
Natalie M.
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
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Japanese Dragon Eel HELP!!!!!! Mysterious losses... env.
4/6/17
I was wondering if you guys could possibly shed some light on a problem
I'm having with Japanese Dragon eels.
<I will respond here and have sent your message on to MarcoL for his
sep. resp.>
I am currently on my 3rd specimen within a 2 year period. The other 2
passed away after being in my current tank after 1 year and about 7
months respectively. Unfortunately, the one in my tank now I fear won't
make it
through the night, and has only been in the tank for 1 week.
<Mmm; something wrong here... environmentally likely. Do you measure
dissolved oxygen?>
I have a 150 gallon display tank with a 20 gallon sump setup and
refugium. I run a protein skimmer, carbon reactor, and biopellet
reactor.
<Why this last?>
Temp 78F, ph8.2, salinity 1.023-1.025, ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate
20-40.
There is about 130 pounds of live rock, sand bottom, and terracotta pots
(non glazed) in the main tank. There are also anywhere from 6-12
damsels in the tank at any given time, who do not seem to ever be
affected (3 of which have been in the tank since the beginning).
<A good clue>
Diet consists of haddock, striped bass, squid, silversides, shrimp,
krill, etc... Every eel has appeared to be in great health. Very active
during the day. Very social with anyone that walks up to the tank.
Great appetites. However, out of the blue it is like a switch is
flipped and they stop eating, begin "gasping",
<This too>
become very lethargic, then die within a day or two. I have tried water
changes, antibiotics, antiparasitics, without any luck. The first 2 eels
were around 18-24 inches, while this new one is only about 12 inches.
Any ideas what could be going on and why it only affects the eels?
<The DO issue comes to mind most prominently. A 150 isn't much room for
a large eel... I'd add aeration... mechanically; and check to see that
O2 is near saturation (7 or so ppm) here. Bob Fenner>
Thanks for any advice or help, Evan
Fwd: Japanese Dragon Eel HELP!!!!!! 4/6/17
I forgot to mention I have a full cleanup crew of Nassarius snails, blue
legged hermits and peppermint shrimp that also appear to never be
affected.
<Also leading me to suspect gas solubility issue. BobF>
Re: Japanese Dragon Eel HELP!!!!!! 4/6/17
Bob,
Thank you for such a quick response...sadly though, this eel has passed
as well. In terms of O2, how do I measure it?
<There are colorimetric assays like for much of what interests aquarists
water-quality wise; as well as more expensive electronic meters>
Would the protein skimmer add enough O2 into the system?
<Not necessarily, no>
Could the terra-cotta be leaching some sort of poison?
<Mmm; good question: A point of fact is that there ARE other possible
sources of morbidity, mortality here that would disfavor a large
Muraenid (over damsels, the mix of invertebrates you mentioned)... I
would remove
ALL that is questionable. I might avail myself of PolyFilter... as an
aid (via coloring) as to what might be trouble here>
If O2 related, why do you think the larger eels lasted so much longer
than the little one, who only survived 1 week and was doing great at my
LFS for months in a much smaller tank and a Kidako eel tankmate?
<Can't say directly... but this IS the case... that smaller eels are
more easily poisoned, die from env. stress vs. larger. I would
have you (it will take a while) read generally re such HERE:
http://wetwebmedia.com/toxictkuf.htm
AND the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Re: Japanese Dragon Eel HELP!!!!!! Plus DO f'
4/7/17
Bob,
<Evan>
Thanks again for your insight. What is the best method in order
to add more dissolved O2 to the system?
<Mmm; lower temperature, more circulation, total turnover (w/ all water
skimming the air/water interface); pump, power-head discharges set near
the surface, mechanical bubblers... Biotowers...>
I added two more power heads to aerate the water in my sump. They make a
lot of bubbles, of which rise to the surface and dissipate...is this
actually doing what is needed?
<A help; yes. B>
Evan
Re: Please help.... bring in another victim of env. dis.. No
rdg. 1/25/15
Hi Sir/Madam
<Hi Paul.>
I am seeking some help with my morey lepord erl.
<I guess this should read Leopard moray eel... or maybe Leopard moray
Earl.
Yes, Earl would be nice name for a Leopard moray eel. Anyway, from your
text I guess you are talking about a Gymnothorax favagineus.>
We have had him for two years he lives in a 800 litre tank with
live rock and a skimmer, biomedia and a sock for filterisation.
<filtration.>
About a month ago he wasn't eating as regular as normal he is approx.
just under 5 ft in length
<that's quite a big fish for a 800 litre tank.>
and normally has two squids a night (frozen then defrosted first)
<You should keep the diet more varied. Also feed various fish filets,
mussels, shrimps...>
so we had the water checked and the only issue was the
nitrate was on the second colour down from ok.
<You should get a test, where you get real values. Nitrates
should be smaller than 20 mg/l.>
We did a 200 litre water change and I cleaned all the rock and filled
the tank back up all ok with this, since then this being nearly two
weeks ago he hasn't eaten at all, he is moving around still just has no
appetite even for sardines.
<You should do more of those water changes until the nitrates are below
20 mg/l.>
Tonight I checked him and his eyes had gone white and he had lost the
yellow in his spots so I turned off the lights and left it for five
min.s and when I turned them on again his eyes had gone back to brown
and his colour had started coming back.
<That's normal. Many moray eels have a lighter night coloration that
changes back after disturbances, esp. turning on the light. People are
often upset when they see it the first time.>
I am quite worried now, but don't know what to do as no one seems to
know about these fish.
<I see no problem here so far. It's normal for Leopard moray eels and
many other morays to refuse to eat for weeks from time to time. The
night coloration is also normal. Educate yourself about nitrates und get
a test that can measure ppm or mg/l, then do water changes about twice
per week until they are below 20 mg/l and keep them there. Also check
temperature
and pH, and vary the diet once he is eating again. Please
see
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/EelPIX/Moray%20Eels/tesselatedMorayF.htm
and
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/moraysysfaqs.htm and
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/moraysysfaqs .htm for morays eel care.>
Many thanks in advance if you can help
Kind Regards Paul
<Welcome. Marco.> Dragon Moray Eel issues
1/16/15
Hello,
<Mark>
You all have helped once before a few years back, hoping for your help
again. I have a dragon moray eel that is about two feet long. He is
housed alone other than some turbo snails. I do water quality tests and
water changes once a week. However over the holidays I got very sick and
had a month where instead of doing four water changes only two got done.
Nitrate levels did rise during this time.
<Ahh; to how high? Oh, see this below. WAY too high>
The eel has begun chewing his tail and has not eaten since Tuesday of
last week. The tail looks very nasty and I am not sure he has stopped. I
have begun doing water changes every day
<DO see WWM re other means of nitrate reduction. Do you need
help using the search tool, indices?>
and the nitrates have come down from 160 to 80 and hopefully still
dropping. The heat also may have risen higher than I normally let it. I
usually keep him at 78-80 and Any experience with this? Any suggestions?
<Yes; and the reading. Am sending this off to MarcoL here as
well (our resident Muraenid resource). He may well suggest med. use...
I'd for now be doing what you can to improve the environment. Including
use of chemical filtrant/s>
Thanks,
Mark Mazzei
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Dragon Moray Eel issues /Marco
1/16/15
Hello,
<Mark>
You all have helped once before a few years back, hoping for your help
again. I have a dragon moray eel that is about two feet long. He is
housed alone other than some turbo snails. I do water quality tests and
water changes once a week. However over the holidays I got very sick and
had a month where instead of doing four water changes only two got done.
Nitrate levels did rise during this time.
<Ahh; to how high? Oh, see this below. WAY too high>
The eel has begun chewing his tail and has not eaten since Tuesday of
last week. The tail looks very nasty and I am not sure he has stopped. I
have begun doing water changes every day
<DO see WWM re other means of nitrate reduction. Do you need help using
the search tool, indices?>
and the nitrates have come down from 160 to 80 and hopefully still
dropping. The heat also may have risen higher than I normally let it.
I usually keep him at 78-80 and Any experience with this? Any
suggestions?
<Yes; and the reading. Am sending this off to MarcoL here as well (our
resident Muraenid resource). He may well suggest med. use... I'd for now
be doing what you can to improve the environment. Including use of
chemical filtrant/s>
Thanks,
Mark Mazzei
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
<<I agree with Bob. Improve the environment with daily water
changes until you reach nitrate levels <20 mg/l. You can keep
this species colder, since they mostly come from colder parts of the
oceans. 76 F or 24°C is also okay. See
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/HIDragonMorayArt.htm
and the disease link on top for further information.
Also check your filtration: two water changes less should not result in
such high nitrates. If the infection you observe expands or does not
heal by itself, try antibiotic baths with Neoplex (the antibiotic in
this product is Neomycin) or Maracyn if you find some available. Good
luck!
MarcoL >>
Re: Dragon Moray Eel issues Thanks for the quick response. I will keep
working on the nitrates and keep
watching for more info.
Mark
<Ah; do please keep us/WWM informed. Cheers, BobF>
Re: Dragon Moray Eel issues 1/16/15
Thanks for your response. Here is an update. I am continuing daily water
changes. Yesterday I added Seachem Denitrate yesterday and also a Deep
Blue brand nitrate reducer pad and they do seem to have helped. Nitrates
were down this morning to about 50 from 90 yesterday. I will continue in
this vein unless you a have other suggestions.
>Nope; carry on<
His tail looks slightly improved - a bit less red but still not good.
Hopefully it means he has taken a break from chewing on it. Still is
spending less time in his tunnels and maybe breathing a bit more
labored.
Any input is welcomed. Thanks,
Mark Mazzei
<The reading Marco and I've suggested. BobF>
Re: Dragon Moray Eel issues. Not a reader /RMF
1/21/15
Thanks so much for your input on the dragon eel thus far. I do have a
wet/dry filter system on this tank and have gotten away with it up to now but
reading your nitrate reducing articles....sounds like that needs to go.
I currently am still doing daily changes and have nitrates down to 40ish
but that5 is as low as they seem to be going.
<.... read again on WWM re NO3... you were directed there last time>
They have been stable at that for the last 5 days.
His tail was looking less red but today I got a good a view and apparently he is
back to chewing as it is red again.
What are your thoughts on antibiotics added to the water?
<... had you read>
Could they help?
Will they kill any good bacteria I have going on? Any particular antibiotic you
would recommend? My local aquarium m shop, have recommended this.
<That you READ:
http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/FishInd1.htm
scroll down to Morays, disease, this species. We can't help you if you
won't READ. BobF>
Thanks again for any advice,
Mark
Re: Dragon Moray Eel issues
/Marco
1/21/15
Thanks so much for your input on the dragon eel thus far. I do have a
wet/dry filter system on this tank and have gotten away with it
up to now but reading your nitrate reducing articles....sounds like that
needs to go.
<Yes, use a strong skimmer to remove a lot of waste
before it turns into nitrates. Also have strong circulation for gaseous
exchange and high oxygen levels.>
I currently am still doing daily changes and have nitrates down
to 40ish but, that is as low as they seem to be going.
<Still too high.>
They have been stable at that for the last 5 days.
<If you are still changing water and the nitrates remain the same: Check
the nitrates of the water you use for the changes. If this has
significantly lower nitrates it's obvious bound nitrates are leaching
back into the tank water. Possibly from the substrate, pad and bound by
Denitrate. Try changing the pad and carry on with the water changes.>
His tail was looking less red but today I got a good a view and
apparently he is back to chewing as it is red again.
<I have never seen an eel chewing on its own tail. The wounds there are
probably from flesh eating bacteria unless you have seen it biting its
tail.>
What are your thoughts on antibiotics added to the water? Could they
help?
<Very possible. See the recommended products in our former answers.>
Will they kill any good bacteria I have going on?
<Should not have significant impact, however using antibiotic as baths
or in a hospital tank is more safe, but more trouble for the fish.
Any particular antibiotic you would recommend? My local aquarium shop,
have recommended this.
Thanks again for any advice, Mark
<Good luck. Marco.> Is my Eel near the end?
12/14/12
Hey All - first things first - many thanks to all of you for all of the
information you have provided to me and others over the years! I
have been a daily reader for many years and learn something new every
day.
<I am very glad you like the site.>
Now on to my dilemma. I have had the privilege to care for
a 4' Undulated Moray (Gymnothorax undulatus) for about the last 25 years.
<That's impressive.>
Because of his rather unruly behavior (Hannibal the Cannibal - he eats
EVERYTHING!) he is the sole inhabitant in a 72" 125g Oceanic tank with a
120g tank as a
refugium and a 50g sump.
<I have a moray eel with the same name for the same reason, too.>
I have fed him a selection of various ocean fish/shrimp/scallops/squid
about weekly. I will sometimes inject some Selcon into the food as
well.
Over the last year or so, he has lost all his teeth, to the point where
he is having trouble positioning the pieces of food so that he can
swallow them. Last week, and again tonight, despite his best
efforts, he was unable to swallow the food and quickly became exhausted
to the point where he just gave up trying. I know they can go on
hunger strikes - his longest was almost 6 months, but that was early on
in his tenure with me and I attribute it to poor water
quality/insufficient filtration. (Remember when putting a powerhead on
UG lift tubes was revolutionary?)
<Yep.>
Water quality is no longer an issue - pH is 8.1, Ammonia 0, Nitrites 0,
Nitrates barely detectable (Salifert test kits), temp is 78.
<Sounds perfect.>
Is it possible (likely) that he is coming to the end of his days?
<I fear this likely is the case. I've collected information on maximum
life spans of various moray eels in captivity, and for G. undulatus I
suppose 25 years would be the equivalent of a 90 or 100 year old human.>
If so, I do not want him to suffer - he has been with me almost 3 times
longer than my wife! What would you suggest as the most humane way of
easing him on his way?
<A MS 222 or clove oil overdose and pithing (destruction of the brain
when the fish is unconscious). Please see
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/euthanasia.htm for a thoughtful article on
the topic.>
Assuming, of course, that it is indeed that time.
<I would carry on offering small pieces of food loaded with vitamins and
only take the path of euthanasia when the fish suffers (e.g. shows
hunger, but can't eat or becomes lethargic.>
Thanks again for all your help over the years. Bill
<Take care. Marco.>
Re: Is my Eel near the end? 5/28/13
It is with heavy heart that I must report the passing of my old friend,
Hannibal, a Gymnothorax undulatus.
<I'm very sorry to hear that.>
I had the pleasure of keeping him for someplace in the neighborhood of
25 years, So I figure I did all right by him.
<Definitely.>
After a proper period of mourning (well, not really) I will turn his
tank into the reef tank that I had originally purchased it for, way back
in the day. The wife would like some anemones and clown fish, so
the tank will become something new and different, but live on none the
less.
Thanks for your help with him over the years. I'm sure that the new
system will bring its own share of questions, so rest assured, I'll be
back!
Bill Smith
<Take care. Marco.>
HELP.. Hungry eel can't eat! --
07/10/09
Hello all.. hope you can help'¦ We have a medium sized
Tesselata eel for about a year now. He has always been an aggressive
eater. For approximately the last two weeks when we go to fed him a
shrimp, he acts very hungry.. trying to find the shrimp. Once he finds
it he grabs it and acts like he wants to eat it, but can't chew it
or swallow it, no matter how small of a piece we try to feed him. His
breathing seems normal, water parameters are normal. We have
approximately 1500 gallons total, same filtration, but separated into 5
tanks. He is in one of the tanks by himself and all of the other fish
are fine. I see lots of article and have experienced fish that loose
their appetite for one reason or another, but he seems to still have
his appetite, just unable to get it down. Any suggestions?
<Sounds like a problem with its pharyngeal jaws/their ligaments or
less likely a swollen throat, maybe due to physical injury or possibly
due to a shrimp only diet related deficiency disease. Did the eel
happen to eat anything sharp, are you missing a fish with sharp spines,
a trigger, filefish etc. that might have jumped into the eel tank?
Options are: sedate the animal and force feed (vitamin enriched food)
and examine it (together with a vet) or try to let it heal naturally
providing perfect water quality. Since moray eels can got without food
for months, I'd use the second option first and if this fails try
force feeding. Good luck. Marco.>
My Tess Thanks 7/26/09
You Hey everyone. I wanted to shoot you a quick note to say thank you
from myself and my Tesselata eel. After a major move of his 300 gallon
home he ate once and then didn't eat again for a couple of weeks.
As soon as I decided it was a problem, I came to WWM and did some
searching on Tess's and lack of feeding. Turns out I didn't
have enough flow in the aquarium to ensure optimal oxygen saturation. I
pointed the returns at the top of the water and added a Koralia 8
Magnum to the aquarium. He ate a big sardine Ryan
<Congratulations on your discovery and rescue. Bob Fenner>
Sick Zebra eel, James' go
12/11/07 Hi Bob, James with you today, Jack.> Owner: Jack
I'm 12 years old. <Mmm, a young aquarist, good for you!>
Tank: Corner 110 litres, Crushed coral base, 3 hand size & 3 golf
ball size live rocks. One hollow ship wreck. Built in filter, Heater,
Power head set up to pump in air as well. Occupants: 35cm Zebra Eel,
18cm Snow Flake eel, Blue Damsel fish. General: Zebra Eel. I have owned
the eel and tank for about 6 months. The eels have both been eating
fine every second day (Cooked and uncooked prawns, Pipis ) Tried
calamari, squid and mussels. They both swam around during the day and
night, They hand feed and loved to be petted. <Not a good idea to
hand feed eels, they have a nasty bacteria infested bite which can lead
to a bacterial infection on the wounded area. Do discontinue this
practice.> Their breathing was fine and they are very calm and seem
relaxed in their environment. I did water change of 5-10 litres every
week to ten days. I tested the water every week and adjusted when
needed. We did adjust the pH with Marine buffer (Seachem brand) I did
once put the buffer in the tank directly without mixing it in water
from the tank in a cup first and then pouring it in. Problem: Last
Tuesday I noticed the Zebra Eel's head was laying on bottom of tank
and seemed to struggle to breath and hold his head up. He was not
swimming around and stopped eating for about week. His eye was a bit
smoky gray. His stripes were fine, skin was slimy. On Tuesday afternoon
we transferred the eel to the aquarium that we bought him from. In
capturing the eel this made him swim around and seemed to pick him in
itself. <?> When we arrived at the aquarium and they transferred
it to their tank it seemed a lot better, they said they will keep it
for observation. They increased the salt in tank and the next day it
ate and seemed on a recovery. When i\I called the next day they said it
seemed to relapse back to its old ways. The next day they said it was
about the same but had a white spots on its face appearing and in its
mouth. From this position he did not recover and this afternoon the eel
passed away. The aquarium said they are not sure why it passed away but
I would love to know why so I can take better care of my other eel and
I would like to one day get another Zebra Eel. General: The Snow Flake
Eel and the damsel are fine. I did check the water when all this was
occurring and it was perfect and the aquarium checked the water as well
the day we took the eel there and they said it was fine. We have been
told that eels are hardy pet is this true. <Yes, they are hardy if
conditions are favorable for them. A 28 gallon tank is much too small
for this fish. They can grow to about two feet and really need to be in
a 50 gallon or larger aquarium. I'm guessing what happened to eel
was caused by environmental stress. They are huge waste producers for
their size and I believe this led to his demise. In reading your email,
I'm guessing you have a 28 gallon all in one nano tank. The
filtration system on these systems isn't really suited to keeping
eels or any large fish.> Thanks for reading my email but I would
appreciate your feedback. <You're welcome Jack, and please read
here. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/zebramor.htm James (Salty Dog)>
Jack
Sick zebra moray eel... too small, too little filtered,
mis-buffered... reading, Bob's go 12/11/07 Hi crew, Owner: Jack
I'm 12 years old. <Howdy: Bob, I'm 55> Tank: Corner 110
litres, Crushed coral base, 3 hand size & 3 golf ball size live
rocks. 1 hollow ship wreck. Built in filter, Heater, Power head set up
to pump in air as well. Occupants: 35cm zebra eel, 18cm snow flake eel,
Blue damsel fish. <Mmm... I wish I knew the make-up of your built-in
filter... Moray eels do produce a good deal of waste... And this tank
volume is much too small for these two> General: Zebra eel. I have
owned the eel and tank for about 6mths. The eels have both been eating
fine every second day (Cooked and uncooked prawns, Pipis ) Tried
calamari, squid and mussels. They both swam around during the day and
night, They hand fed and loved to be patted. Their breathing was fine
and they are very calm and seem relaxed in their environment. I did
water change of 5-10 litres every week to ten days. I tested the water
every week and adjusted when needed. We did adjust the ph with Marine
buffer (Seachem brand) I did once put the buffer in the tank directly
without mixing it in water from the tank in a cup 1st and then pouring
it in. <I see... and you've hopefully learned better>
Problem: Last Tuesday I noticed the Zebra eels head was laying on
bottom of tank and seemed to strangle to breath and hold his head up.
He was not swimming around and stopped eating for about week. His eye
was a bit smoky gray. His strips were fine, skin was slimy. On the
Tuesday afternoon we transferred the eel to the aquarium that we bought
him from. In capturing the eel this made him swim around and seemed to
pick him in itself. When we arrived at the aquarium and they
transferred it to their tank it seemed a lot better, they said they
will keep it for observation. They Increased the salt in tank and the
next day it eat and seemed on a recovery. When I called the next day
they said it seemed to relapse back to its old ways. The next day they
said it was about the same but had a white spots on its face appearing
and in its mouth. From this position this he did not recover and this
afternoon the eel passed away. The aquarium said they are not sure why
it passed away but I would love to know why so I can take better care
of my other eel and I would like to one day get another Zebra eel.
<Mmm...> General: The Snow flake eel and the damsel are fine. I
did check the water when all this was occurring and it was perfect and
the aquarium checked the water as well the day we took the eel there
and they said it was fine. We have been told that eels are hardy pet is
this true. <Most species, specimens if placed in appropriate
settings are, yes...> Thanks for reading my email but I would
appreciate your feedback. Jack <Your Zebra/Gymnomuraena likely
succumbed to the buffer being poured directly into the tank, along with
general stress... This system is too small... Please read re these two
species needs here: http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/index.htm the
third tray down. Bob Fenner>
Gymnothorax tile with possible tumors -- 09/04/07 Hello!
<Hi!> Sorry I must contact you with bad news. <No
problem.> Somehow one must guess most people who have
questions do. I believe that this is the fatal flaw for the moray
I have made. I trusted the staff at the LFS. I've been
feeding him shrimp for months and now that something has finally
gone wrong have I dug into the problem. I guess stuff happens but
I should have been able to prevent it with research, but the
sites I could find before I ran into yours mentioned morays
eating crustaceans. <They do, but not exclusively and not just
one type.> I've found your website incredibly reliable as
far as I can see. When I looked into the problem, I looked into
diet, and disease on your site. What worries me, is that even if
I correct the diet, he has what appears to be tumors on his
belly, the white portion. He's in a high brackish setup for
more info if you need that. <Okay, that's an important
information. I hope the specific gravity is above 1.010.> Say
the diet is corrected in the long term, will he be able to
survive what has happened to him? <Possible, if the diet was
the reason and apparent damage is reversible. Daily vitamin
additions will help you to correct the diet and find out.>
I'm concerned with the tumors. I doubt there is anything I
will be able to do except for do my best. <Yes, a vet would be
needed for a better diagnosis. What you can do is: check your
nitrates. Aside nutrition this problem might be caused by an
environmental issue, e.g. high nitrates or low salinity (which
you probably can exclude at least for the time you had it) for a
long time.> I thought it might have been an infection from the
substrate, which is smooth gravel. <Improbable.> I siphoned
every piece of filth I could from the gravel and did a 20% water
change of his 20 gallon tall. <Okay'¦ That tank is
relatively small, therefore it is well possible nitrates
accumulated. You may also want to check nitrites and ammonia to
see if this system is adequately filtered. Nitrates>20 and any
reading of ammonia and nitrites >0 can be a problem. You'd
have to do large water changes in that case (remember changing
50% will only decrease any harmful substance by 50%) and keep
those parameters down as long as your fish is in this tank.>
The eel is barely over a foot, and I plan on buying him a fifty
gallon aquarium as soon as I can. I just noticed what happened
today, and I sent this in ASAP. <Good decision.> His diet
will be corrected immediately with variety <'¦and
vitamins> to ensure proper nutrition. During the tank change I
took a picture of him in a holding container (plastic bowl).
<I love this species.> He stirred up a lot in the time it
took to catch him hence the nasty stuff in the bowl. I also
disturbed a lot trying to capture him... Other than the
mysterious large bumps on him *three if I remember correctly* he
swims around and eats just fine. <I hope he gets well again.
Some types of tumors are reversible, while others are not. Good
luck and write back if further questions or comments arise.
Marco.>
Gymnothorax tile with possible tumors; follow up ? --
09/09/07 Hi again. I must thank you for your quick response.
<No problem.> Sorry mine was not so swift. <Since you
did not include our correspondence it is difficult for us to
remember your problem. Dozens of e-mails arrive here every day.
But I do assume you are the one who had a problem with a brackish
Gymnothorax tile with possible tumors?> Shortly after sending
the e-mail I contacted a friend who also keeps saltwater fish. He
suggested a full water change. I did such even though I thought
it was risky but I'll try anything that might benefit the eel
as long as it seems rational. To keep the tank "aged" I
left the old filter in so the bacteria would be reintroduced. Now
I'm trying to get the eel to eat a wider variety of food. It
ate more shrimp immediately just an hour afterwards. The piece of
squid were ignored and are still laying on the bottom of the
tank. <Take them out if they are not eaten within a few hours.
You'll need some patience to train the eel. If he's a
little hungry his motivation to try something new will be
higher.> Mussel meat will be tried. I bought silversides from
the pet store as well as krill. <Okay.> So far all he
accepts is shrimp as always. With methods of keeping his body in
top shape, what could I do to make the shrimp more nutritious in
the meantime? I know that Walgreens sells hypodermic needles I
could use to inject the shrimp with vitamins. <Can do that.
You could also soak the thawed food in vitamins for about half an
hour.> Also, asking around, I have lights used for regular
freshwater fish. Should I get those intended to emit UVA to
simulate natural sunlight? More questions asked to people I know
suggest he'd need it so he could absorb calcium (I don't
think they need it very badly but it seems to be a basic need for
a lot of animals) and produce vitamin D to fight off cancer.
<Since G. tile moray eels are predominately nocturnal in
nature, I do not think the spectrum of the lights is connected to
the disease of your eel. In addition, vitamin D won't be a
problem for a moray, which naturally eat vitamin D rich sea food
like fish and crustaceans. However, I do prefer bulbs with the
most natural spectrum for my own tanks.> The eel showed a
drastic increase in activity after the water change before
settling down under his driftwood which is in there to simulate
an estuary. <May rot in the brackish water.> Is there
anything I'm doing wrong here beside the nutrition issue?
<As suggested monitor the nitrates. Anything higher than 20
ppm can be a problem. What was the nitrate concentration before
you did the water change? It is well possible long term
nitrogenous poisoning was the source of your problem.> I
suspect I am. I don't know for sure though. There is
something else I wish to ask you in another e-mail. It has to do
with the senior project at my school and this will be sent very
shortly after this. <Okay. Be chatting. Marco.>
Re: Gymnothorax tile tumors. Malnutrition? -
10/07/2007 The eel's tumors are gone! I appreciate your
advice very much. There has been a lot of success with keeping
him healthy, along with some noticeable growth in size. His food
has been injected with the appropriate supplements as well. The
need for a new tank is growing, and I believe I could probably
get him a new one in the next few months. Adding another
question, I found this little packet in the LFS called
"Phosphate-X" or "Phos-X." Something like
that name. The description on the label says it absorbs
phosphate, nitrates, and nitrites. I don't rely on this
little packet about the size of a sticky-note and still perform
water changes, I was only wondering if it helped. On a different
matter, the eel eats about twice a week based on the information
I found on your website. I used to offer krill that was accepted
from time to time but read that it wasn't good for the eel
and promptly stopped feeding that. Silversides have been a new
favorite alongside shrimp, and squid are accepted when the eel
feels like eating them. (the food is removed after a few hours as
you suggested as not to pollute the water) I'd like him to
live as long as possible, so I've done everything I can, and
will continue to do so. The brackish water isn't rotting the
wood so far, and the salinity is as you suggested. While on that,
is there anything better than a regular hydrometer? Perhaps
something electronic? <A hydrometer is fine for brackish water
fish. Any inaccuracy will be well within the tolerances of the
fish. In fact, most brackish water fish like a bit of variation
from time to time. But your filter isn't quite so
accommodating, so it's best not to vary the SG more than a
couple of points on the SG scale at any one time (i.e., SG 1.010
to 1.012 is fine, but 1.010 to 1.018 not so much).> Another
question. My Gymnothorax tile lives in high-end brackish but what
is their environment like out where they live if they're from
Asia? <The problem here is that they are almost certainly
migratory, like most large brackish water fish. So there's no
"perfect" habitat. These morays are found -- as adults
-- in completely freshwater as well as in the sea, and they seem
to move about between the upper and lower estuary. They're
neither completely saltwater fish nor true freshwater fish, but
something in between. That said, like a lot of eels, their main
habitat is murky, muddy water where their ability to burrow,
negotiate rubble and locate food under poor visibility conditions
is useful. A typical environment would probably be sticky mud at
the bottom, murky water, large rocks and waterlogged tree trunks,
and rocky reefs. Hardly attractive for an aquarium!> Will any
aquatic plants survive in the brackish water, and what kind of
decoration should be used to make it look like Gymnothorax tile
habitat? <There are brackish water plants, such as
Cryptocoryne ciliata and Crinum calamistratum in the trade, as
well as the very hardy Java fern that does well in brackish
water, but there's little point to using them. They
aren't authentic for the sorts of habitats these eels will be
living in. Eels favour dark, murky places and they don't like
bright light. Much better to create something with a tall, rocky
reef-like structure so the eel can hide and wind itself around.
These eels don't so much swim as slither through things, and
the more 3D the aquarium, the better. Big mounds of holey rocks
would probably work very nicely. Something like a reef tank
arrangement. What you want to avoid is anything too rough and
definitely nothing unstable, as these fish are quite powerful and
excellent diggers. I'd personally be looking at an oyster
reef habitat. These are really important environments in brackish
water habitats and easy to replicate. Simply gather lots of
oyster shells (easy enough to buy as food, if nothing else) and
use silicone to cement them to some sort of rock, such as tufa
rock.> I'm thinking that if I make it as naturalistic as
possible he'll live longer than what is usually achieved in
captivity. <A good approach. The reason these eels don't
survive is not really a mystery. A few things seem consistent.
Keeping them in too-low a salinity doesn't help, and usually
leads to hunger strikes. So at least SG 1.005 is required, and
probably SG 1.010 for best results. On the other hand,
there's no evidence they "swim out to sea" when
mature, so keeping them in saltwater tanks likely isn't
required provided the salinity is at least at or above SG 1.010.
Diet is another factor. With these eels, and indeed any other
predatory fish, I'm a fan of the "little but often"
approach. Yes, you can feed them a big prawn one day and skip the
next. But the risk with predatory fish is they regurgitate the
food and pollute the tank. I'd sooner give small morsels each
night, so that there's no risk of major pollution. At SG
1.010 upwards you can use a protein skimmer with success. While
not crucial, these devices to help manage the nitrate by removing
organic waste from meaty foods before they decay. So in the long
run, a skimmer can end up saving you money by reducing the
frequency of water changes. Of course, you still need to aim for
the same relatively low nitrate level (I'd suggest <50
mg/l) but generally morays are fairly tolerant of this. Hope this
helps, Neale>
Re: Gymnothorax tile tumors. Malnutrition? -
10/07/2007 The eel's tumors are gone! I appreciate your
advice very much. There has been a lot of success with keeping
him healthy, along with some noticeable growth in size. His food
has been injected with the appropriate supplements as well. The
need for a new tank is growing, and I believe I could probably
get him a new one in the next few months. Adding another
question, I found this little packet in the LFS called
"Phosphate-X" or "Phos-X." Something like
that name. The description on the label says it absorbs
phosphate, nitrates, and nitrites. I don't rely on this
little packet about the size of a sticky-note and still perform
water changes, I was only wondering if it helped. On a different
matter, the eel eats about twice a week based on the information
I found on your website. I used to offer krill that was accepted
from time to time but read that it wasn't good for the eel
and promptly stopped feeding that. Silversides have been a new
favorite alongside shrimp, and squid are accepted when the eel
feels like eating them. (the food is removed after a few hours as
you suggested as not to pollute the water) I'd like him to
live as long as possible, so I've done everything I can, and
will continue to do so. The brackish water isn't rotting the
wood so far, and the salinity is as you suggested. While on that,
is there anything better than a regular hydrometer? Perhaps
something electronic? <A hydrometer is fine for brackish water
fish. Any inaccuracy will be well within the tolerances of the
fish. In fact, most brackish water fish like a bit of variation
from time to time. But your filter isn't quite so
accommodating, so it's best not to vary the SG more than a
couple of points on the SG scale at any one time (i.e., SG 1.010
to 1.012 is fine, but 1.010 to 1.018 not so much).> Another
question. My Gymnothorax tile lives in high-end brackish but what
is their environment like out where they live if they're from
Asia? <The problem here is that they are almost certainly
migratory, like most large brackish water fish. So there's no
"perfect" habitat. These morays are found -- as adults
-- in completely freshwater as well as in the sea, and they seem
to move about between the upper and lower estuary. They're
neither completely saltwater fish nor true freshwater fish, but
something in between. That said, like a lot of eels, their main
habitat is murky, muddy water where their ability to burrow,
negotiate rubble and locate food under poor visibility conditions
is useful. A typical environment would probably be sticky mud at
the bottom, murky water, large rocks and waterlogged tree trunks,
and rocky reefs. Hardly attractive for an aquarium!> Will any
aquatic plants survive in the brackish water, and what kind of
decoration should be used to make it look like Gymnothorax tile
habitat? <There are brackish water plants, such as
Cryptocoryne ciliata and Crinum calamistratum in the trade, as
well as the very hardy Java fern that does well in brackish
water, but there's little point to using them. They
aren't authentic for the sorts of habitats these eels will be
living in. Eels favour dark, murky places and they don't like
bright light. Much better to create something with a tall, rocky
reef-like structure so the eel can hide and wind itself around.
These eels don't so much swim as slither through things, and
the more 3D the aquarium, the better. Big mounds of holey rocks
would probably work very nicely. Something like a reef tank
arrangement. What you want to avoid is anything too rough and
definitely nothing unstable, as these fish are quite powerful and
excellent diggers. I'd personally be looking at an oyster
reef habitat. These are really important environments in brackish
water habitats and easy to replicate. Simply gather lots of
oyster shells (easy enough to buy as food, if nothing else) and
use silicone to cement them to some sort of rock, such as tufa
rock.> I'm thinking that if I make it as naturalistic as
possible he'll live longer than what is usually achieved in
captivity. <A good approach. The reason these eels don't
survive is not really a mystery. A few things seem consistent.
Keeping them in too-low a salinity doesn't help, and usually
leads to hunger strikes. So at least SG 1.005 is required, and
probably SG 1.010 for best results. On the other hand,
there's no evidence they "swim out to sea" when
mature, so keeping them in saltwater tanks likely isn't
required provided the salinity is at least at or above SG 1.010.
Diet is another factor. With these eels, and indeed any other
predatory fish, I'm a fan of the "little but often"
approach. Yes, you can feed them a big prawn one day and skip the
next. But the risk with predatory fish is they regurgitate the
food and pollute the tank. I'd sooner give small morsels each
night, so that there's no risk of major pollution. At SG
1.010 upwards you can use a protein skimmer with success. While
not crucial, these devices to help manage the nitrate by removing
organic waste from meaty foods before they decay. So in the long
run, a skimmer can end up saving you money by reducing the
frequency of water changes. Of course, you still need to aim for
the same relatively low nitrate level (I'd suggest <50
mg/l) but generally morays are fairly tolerant of this. Hope this
helps, Neale>
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Sick eel 12/23/06 Seasons Greetings, <Ho,
ho, ho!> Well, the season will not be so good if I can't
figure out what's wrong with my eel. I have a 55 gallon tank
with a Blackedge, a purple tang, and a Naso tang. <!>
Understandably the tank is a overcrowded, but I have had the tank
in its current situation for three years now. <Still...
ridiculous arrangement for these species> About two weeks ago my
eel started developing theses gray marks on his skin and recently
he has been acting erratically. He has exhibited symptoms similar
to ones that other people have reported with their eels, such as
twitching, and sometimes erratic swimming, in short spurts. There
has also been times that he has completed laid "sprawled
out" with no activity at all. He has stopped eating
completely. On the subject of eating, when I first got him he ate
krill, shrimp, scallops, squid and loved silversides. Over the past
2 years, he has only eaten krill, and will not touch anything else.
I have tried hand feeding him the krill and he will not take it.
<Yes... really time catching up with you, it...> I checked
out the tank levels, and all appear to be normal, (nitrites,
ammonia, ph, nitrates). I done water changes, and tried Melafix, as
well as pima fix in case of a bacterial or fungal infection with no
improvement, and have also done water changes. The other fish seem
unaffected by what's going on. In the past two days he has
developed a creamish white circle on his head. I can't figure
out what's wrong or what else to do. Enclosed are pictures of
the eel. Any advice would be appreciated. <Move this animal, and
the rest of your livestock... to much larger quarters... at least
150 gallons... This situation will cure itself there. Bob
Fenner> |
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Sick moray - 5/12/2006 Hello WWM crew,
<GSD Leader Pup> It's been a long while since I have had to
write you. Many years ago Mr. Fenner ID'd my saltwater moray eel as
a Siderea Pictus, now known as a Gymnothorax Pictus. I have had the eel
nearly 6 years and he is approx. 2'9" in length. He has always
been extremely healthy and active, not reclusive at all like I have
read many eel species are. <Yes> His diet consists of most any
meaty frozen food (he is not fed feeder fish of any type). He eats:
krill, silversides, bloodworms, beef heart, brine shrimp, a little
veggie based frozen food once in awhile, mysis shrimp, etc. You name
it, he'll eat it. The tank is a 75 gallon (standard 4' by
18") that houses only him and is filtered by a Fluval 403. It has
been set up and running with him for the length of time I've owned
him. I've never had any problems, he's never been sick. The
tank parameters test out perfect: zero ammonia, zero nitrite, very low
(safe level) of nitrate. Salinity is within the normal range as well.
In short, nothing has changed in this tank or eels care and he is
suddenly rather sick. He was not a juvenile when I purchased him, so I
am unsure of his exact age. Given his size, it's my belief that he
was stunted prior to my ownership of him and could be older than I
would think. I'm estimating him around 10 years of age based on
prior information. Now, to get to the problem... He's going
downhill, and fast. I noticed the last couple of days he's been
behaving a little oddly, but nothing so extreme as to cause me to worry
much. He's very "friendly" and rather tame, so he will
come right up to the glass. I noticed he has some little areas near his
gill opening that look like they are holes in his body, like the skin
is rotting away. His eyes are getting cloudy (does not look like pop
eye - maybe the beginning of it though?) and there are little tufts of
eye covering that seem to be coming off. He also has little tiny pieces
of skin around his facial area that are scruffing as well. He acts
disoriented and hardly responded to a feeding, much less ate. He is
listless and gives a little "shiver" on a regular basis.
He's also open mouthed gaping on a regular basis, though
oxygenation should be fine since he's been healthy for the last 5
1/2 years. The only medication I had that seemed to fit his
descriptions was "Clout" by "Aquarium Products." It
advised treatment of one tablet per 10 gallons. It's a 75g tank, so
I put 7 tablets in. I retreated the tank last night and will do so
again tonight. <I would not use this on/with true eels, including
Muraenids of course> If you have any advice or suggestions as to
what may be causing this, I would greatly appreciate it. I suspect he
is too far gone to save, but I would like to try anyway. Thanks in
advance. <Very likely the root cause of trouble here is
environmental... a dearth of ready/soluble biomineral and alkalinity in
your water... I advise actually temporarily removing the eel, retaining
a good part of the water, dumping the tank of gravel, replacing this
and whatever else you might want to change at this time, returning the
eel and the old water, topping off with new, and running several ounces
of good activated carbon, Chemi-pure or equivalent in your canister
filter... Stat.! Bob Fenner>
Gymnothorax melatremus dumped on floor repeatedly, overheated,
chilled... what's wrong? 10/16/05 Alright <All right?> I
hope you guys can help me quick cause I'm getting impatient and I
think that's really the problem here. My question is about
Gymnothorax melatremus. I had em in a 10-gallon quarantine tank for
about a month. I know the time period was a bit excessive but I saw him
at the LFS and had to have him and the tank for him was being set-up.
Anyways, in the quarantine tank he was doing more than fine. He ate
daily and pooped daily. I did daily to bi-daily water changes on the
q-tank. I got em to hand feed and even feed from the top by hand which
was great. He even to the side of the tank if you tapped on it. So as
it came to moving him (my roommates tried to move him) they got him
into a bowl and he slithered right out. <Very common> I
wasn't in the room while they were doing this as I was prepping the
tank. <Time for new roommates> They didn't even tell me they
were doing it as I was planning on moving him myself. Well apparently
he fell to the floor and they got em back into the bowl and then he
came out again so I rushed in after hearing the commotion and got him
into a bucket (high enough where he wouldn't come out). Well after
acclimating him for an hour to the tank water I moved him in. <I
hope you rinsed him... to clear the dust-bunnies> That night he was
swimming all over the place.. guessing he didn't like his new
surroundings so I let it go for a bit. During this time period he
wasn't eating either. <... would you?> I tried feeding
him his favorite enriched prawns every day and nothing. I tried feeding
him with lights on and off. Then I found out the temp was a bit high in
the tank…86F. I know I know, so I removed the cover and put a
huge fan on it and slowly got the temp down to 79-80. This took about 2
hours. <Too much change too soon> He still hasn't been
eating but I've noticed his facial area around his upper and bottom
mouth and nares seem to be a bit inflamed and reddish. Pretty much his
nose region. Is this a bacterial infection or am I just being paranoid
and should just give him some time? <Likely a bit of both and
trauma, and rubbing...> I'm really worried, as I've already
gotten attached to this guy. Oh also the param.s in both tanks were the
same so that is highly unlikely the cause. Only thing that was
different was the temp. The sand type was also different. <Do these
statements make sense to you? Me neither> Q-tank sand was normal
aragonite but the display tank was oolitic. Thanks for any help
you guys can give me. Mike <Very likely this eel will survive,
heal... Bob Fenner>
Sick eels, please help I have a 300 gallon salt water live
reef tank. About two weeks ago my wolf eel (had it for 6 months)
started hiding, just laying around in one spot and stop eating. He is
sick. <Mmm, not necessarily... and this fish is not a true eel, but
a Dottyback family member> I asked the guy that takes care of my
tank, what is going on? He does not know too much about eels, just that
it happens. When I lived in Hawaii I had a 150 salt water tank with a
zebra eel for 8 years, he never got sick. <Gymnomuraena zebra is a
great aquarium species> Well, today my snow flake eel (I've had
him for 9 months) is lying on it's side, I think he is dead. he was
fine yesterday. The odd thing about this is that the snowflake eel is
lying on the sand and the wolf eel is lying on top of the snow flake
eel. <Coincidence likely> Please tell me what you think is going
on. Thank you, Robin <Strange loss... I take it you check your water
quality often, feed all well... perhaps something the one ate, or
touched... Bob Fenner>
Re: sick eels, please help... What's really odd is every
time the guy who services my tank comes he never checks the quality of
the water in the tank. <?!> I questioned him on this and he says,
"Oh it's a live reef tank, you do not need to check the water
quality." All he does when he comes is refill the back up
container with distilled water and cleans the glass. I'm beginning
to think I've been put together. <... I beg to differ... most
simpler systems can "get by" w/ simple observation of
livestock, routine water changes... An expensive, large reef system? I
suspect "additives" are being utilized... perhaps a calcium
reactor... Everything that is being supplemented must need be tested
for... MUST! Else imbalances are a foregone conclusion> The big
question..... Does the water quality of a live reef tank need to be
balanced and checked. <Uh, yes> One more thing in January I lost
12 beautiful fish to ick. The fish service guy said for me to by some
natural stuff (I forget the name) and treat the water. When I could not
get or find about 5 of the dead fishes, I asked him to come out and
find them in the rocks and remove them, he said, no need they will
disintegrate. How true is this. <... if small biomass, this laziness
can be tolerated...> Okay, so I just called the fish guy and he is
coming out to my house this afternoon, should he be removing the dead
eels (I would think so) and checking the water? Please advise. <...
I maintained such systems (we had the largest service company on the
planet) for about two decades... You should shop around for someone
else. Bob Fenner>
Zebra
Moray sick? Is this aquarist learned? Hi all my fish died yesterday
in quick fashion after a few days of a couple of them not eating.
<!> I checked all the water reading and they were all fine except
maybe the phosphate which was 7.6. <What?! This is incredibly
high> I think they died of either velvet disease or Brooklynella
disease (I found it hard to distinguish between the two). <... my
young friend, these two parasitic diseases are easily told apart>
Now my question is that I still have a Zebra eel, anemone and blue
starfish left in the tank that all seem to be doing ok. Do these have
to be taken out and put into quarantine or do I just wait till
something physically seem wrong? Will the disease in the water
dissipate over time or will I have to do a complete water change? I
have a 420 litre tank with canister filter, protein skimmer with dead
coral and shell grit. I'm sorry if any questions or info sounds
silly as I'm relatively new to the marine keeping game.
Cheers, Shane <Please read... starting here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/mardisease.htm
and on to the many linked files re marine disease... in blue, above.
You need (obviously) a good introduction to aquarium keeping, health...
Bob Fenner>
- Zebra Moray sick? Is this aquarist learned?
Follow-up - Oops my mistake it was the pH low that was 7.6 not
phosphate (side effect of shift-work for my error) and it was
Brooklynella disease. sorry for my error. <Please don't
apologize to me... apologize to your fish. A pH of 7.6 is quite likely
the single culprit, and not a parasitic disease that did in your fish
if it stayed in that range for any time. You really should address that
issue before you also lose the eel. Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marphalk.htm > Shane <Cheers,
J -- >
Eye Growths on Fimbriated Eel 12/29/04 Hello, I have a
question for you in regard to our eel. Here is the
background on him: Our eel was sold to us as a "yellow headed
eel," but as I have researched him on the internet, he appears to
really be a Gymnothorax fimbriatus, although his spots are larger than
most of the pictures. We have had the eel for approximately
2? years and he lives in a 75 gallon SeaClear System II
tank. His only tankmate is a 3 inch trigger, which looks
like a Rhinecanthus aculeatus, except he has no blue
markings. The eel usually eats every day, although he takes
three- to four-day breaks at times (we know he is hungry when he swims
to the top during the feeding of the trigger). <All sounds fine,
although your could easily reduce feedings.> Here are the specifics
of the tank: Temperature = 74 f/ ph = 8.4/ Nitrate
100(yikes!)/ ammonia = between 0 and .25/ Nitrite = 0/ Specific Gravity
1.021 For good or for bad, this is about what our tank
conditions have been for as long as we have had him. <Yikes is
right! Home made coil denitrators, or even more simply a
static sand bed in a bucket or other el-cheapo container are very
effective and inexpensive. Search WWM or the web for
info.> Yesterday, when we went to feed him, we were shocked to see
"growths" (?!) coming from behind the back of his eyeballs
(the eyes themselves appear to be fine). One is small, about
the size of a bee bee and whitish-pink. The other is about
twice as large, reddish-pinker, and more lumpy/bulbous. His
breathing is normal and his behavior appears normal. We
immediately did a water change (about 15%), let it go for the night,
and in the morning went to our LFS. In the morning, the growths were a
little smaller. <Hard to guess what this might be, although since
the fish seems to behaving normally I wouldn't panic. I
would suggest adding variety to your fishes diet if you don't
already do so. Avoid any freshwater foods (especially live
feeders) and avoid krill. Silversides, squid and Mysis are
all good choices as are prepared "carnivore
formulas". Supplementing with vitamins or
injecting/stuffing foods with Nori, Spirulina or other vitamin source
is helpful too. (silversides are easily
stuffed/injected).> The LFS said that it sounded like a sinus
infection (?) due to high nitrates and to do 2-3 50% water changes over
the next week. My question is: does this sound correct to
you? I have found nothing relating to this on the internet
and do not know what to do to help our eel. Could you advise
please? We are very worried about him. Thank you
for any help you can give! Kelly <Searching for
"Fish Sinuses" is as useless as seeking "Frog's
hairs". Neither exist. I do agree with a
couple of aggressive water changes since water quality could be
contributing to the Eel's problem. Unless the condition
worsens, I would continue to perform reasonable water changes (20% a
month after the initial biggies) and ensure a varied
diet. Best Regards. AdamC.>
Eye Growths on Fimbriated Eel (additional info) 12/29/04
Sorry--two more thoughts for you: Our eel is about 24 inches
long. And regarding his eye growths, he rubs the larger one
on the sand or against the rocks. <This is no surprise,
but is of concern since an abrasion may lead to secondary
infection. If it is possible, please send a digital
picture. Best Regards. Adam>
Snowflake Moray Stopped Eating >Hi crew, >>Greetings
Lorenzo, Marina today. >My snowflake moray stopped eating and hid
away a month ago. My pH dropped below 7.9-8.0. >>OUCH! >Now
the pH was restored to a normal pH range of 8.0+, but few days have
elapsed and moray haven't yet started eating again. What can I do
for it? Help me, please. Thanks a lot, Lorenzo
>>Lorenzo, if the pH has bounced (changed up or down more than a
tenth or two of a point) then this will not only SEVERELY stress the
fish, it can kill it. I would do a large water change, and
wait, then try again. If he's lived through the pH
changes, he's probably just not "feeling well", and water
changes will only help (do be absolutely certain the pH
matched). Best of luck, Marina
Moray With Cloudy Eye Hello! It's been awhile since
I've written - hope all is well with you! I have a large (and
growing) 2'9" peppered moray eel currently residing in a 75g
with a medium red Volitans lionfish. Seems happy and is eating well. A
few months ago he came down with what I believe was Popeye. I say
believe because I've never seen it in person and am unsure what
exactly it looks like. <Do look into the disease FAQs on the
wetwebmedia.com site for more information> A series of water changes
over the course of a week cleared it up 100%. Now
he has it again. Two days ago I noticed his eye looked cloudy/puffy
again. I decided to see how it looked in the morning and go from there.
It looked the same, so I fed him, tested the water, and everything
checked out great. This evening however his eye appears to have sank
into his head (is this possible or am I seeing things?) and he has some
sort of off white cloudy looking swelling going on near that eye on the
top of his head. <Well- this can be caused by an injury (if it's
just one eye) that may have become infected. In the absence of other
symptoms, I'd probably rule out Oodinium or Cryptocaryon, but do
check the wetwebmedia.com resources for a confirmation> I did a 30%
water change after testing and again, water param.s were fine.
Ammonia/nitrite were zero. Nitrates were 30ppm (a little higher than
usual, but not enough to cause a problem like this right?). <Well-
declining water quality is often implicated in infections with morays-
it's a slight possibility> pH is 8.2 and water temp is 78. He is
still acting completely normal, and I'm at a loss as to what
has suddenly gone wrong with him lately. Why two outbreaks?
What am I doing wrong? I do bi-monthly water changes but I'm going
to bump that up to weekly and see how things play out. Any other
suggestions? I have had this guy for over two years and he's a part
of the family - I don't want to lose him. Thanks for any advice you
can offer! <I'd definitely look into doing smaller, more
frequent water changes to keep up the water quality. Use aggressive
chemical filtration from PolyFilters and carbon to keep up high water
quality with reduced organics. I'd consider treating the fish with
an antibiotic in a treatment tank if this condition worsens (stay away
from non-chelated copper medications), or do investigate the use of
Epsom salt in the treatment tank as a possible way to reduce the
swelling. I think the first step is to review your husbandry
procedures, as you indicated, and to execute procedures to increase
water quality to levels even better than you already have
achieved. Hope that these ideas help. Good luck! Scott
F.>
Sick Eel My zebra moray is approx. 2ft. long. it has
developed two spots on its head. They are similar in size and location.
there is a spot over each eye. The spots are red and meaty looking.
they are raised and about the size of a BB if not a little larger. can
you help me figure out what's wrong? I need some insight on how to
cure this problem. Thank you, Terry Haymore <Hi Terry, I
suspect water quality (nitrates) first, so please test your water
parameters, feeding, filtration, etc. If you find nitrates are not the
problem, write us back with your tank stats so we can narrow this down
for you. I would start with water quality. There is much more on Zebra
Morays at: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/zebramor.htm
Water quality is key to this eel. Hope this helps you,
Craig>
Re: Sick Zebra moray eel Craig, <Hi Terry> The
distributor called me today and faxed a picture taken from a marine
atlas. The spots on my eels head is caused from over feeding. I would
like to thank you for your assistance. Terry Haymore <Ahh, just as I
thought! Overfeeding is contributing to poor water
quality. If you test your water I bet you get a high nitrate
reading....change water, maintain and upgrade filtration, perform
substantial water changes to get those wastes down as they are
irritating your Eels sensory organs. IOW, burning in urine, feces and
decaying food. Ouch! Good thing it's a
weekend! Go for it! Craig>
Mexican dragon moray with White-Spot Bob, I am the proud
owner of a Mexican dragon moray eel, recently I introduced a lion fish
approx 6" in length not as large as my eel, with him was
introduced white spot which I have now cleared with the use of a copper
compound, <WOW... you are VERY lucky not to have lost the eel
and the Lion. They are both scaleless and quite sensitive to organic
dyes and copper! The election to use it was very ill-advised> the
rest of my fish are eating but my eel has now not eaten for 3 weeks
<I am not surprised... at least some copper poisoning here. Please
do a large water change or two and use PolyFilters to dilute residual
copper ASAP. What's worse is that for having dosed the tank, your
calcareous media (gravel, shells, coral decorations) have been nearly
ruined (absorbed copper and they will continue to leach). Keep the
PolyFilters in and you might be fine with the gravel/sand/rocks. BUT...
please!!! research and apply proper quarantine procedure for all new
fishes. You could buy have a dozen QT tanks for the price of one dead
dragon moray eel. It is critical my friend. Please read up on it in the
archives hear at WWM (articles, FAQs, etc)> I have contacted the
vendor they are not worried about him not eating but I am not only for
the monetary value but we are really attached to him. <they
can go many weeks without food> I am running an Eheim pro II a
protein skimmer (red sea) <do consider upgrading this skimmer
if you are not getting a full cup of dark skimmate daily from this
unit. You should in any predatory fish tank. Do review this skimmers
reputation on the message boards (and in archives) for insight and
possible modifications> I have an 8 watt UV filter which I have just
replaced the Lamp after 5 months initial use, <use heavy
carbon and fine floss prefilter for this unit to work at all... very
slow flow too> I use water produced from an RO unit.
<aerate and buffer this water always before use> I have in the
tank, 1 tang, 1 lionfish, 1 eel and a porcupine in a 180 litre tank. I
carry out regular tests on water quality and am showing good levels
what else can I do to make him feed. <time and as above> Please
help me Chris Head <best of luck, Anthony>
Re: Mexican dragon moray with White-Spot Dear Rob, I just
thought I would let you know that my Mexican Dragon has now eaten,
<Thank goodness. Good news> I have got the copper levels to zero
it has taken several water changes to achieve this but I have got
there. I contacted the retailer who suggested using copper as a
treatment and they had no idea that copper was catastrophic when
treating for white spot with an eel in the tank, <What?
Ridiculous> they even tried to cover their tracks by phoning one of
their suppliers to establish their treatment and were told that it was
not advisable. <Of course... at least their supplier is/was "in
the know"> Thank you for all your help and in future I think
that they will think twice before recommending this type of treatment
with scaleless fish, you might have saved a lot of distraught people
like myself. I shall if you don't object contact you with any
further problems that I get with my tank for your invaluable help. P.S.
Even my wife is happy with the eel and that is saying a lot. Chris Head
<Real good. Thanks for the heads-up. Bob Fenner>
Zebra Moray Hello Bob, Thank you for all the wonderful
information on your site. I love my Zebra. "Mongo" was the
first fish I purchased a year ago, and he is my pride and joy. He has
grown 2.5 feet since I purchased him to an impressive 4.25 feet total
now. However, in the last week he has been demonstrating very alarming
behaviors. He has begun to lay on his side or slightly upside down, and
has rather evenly spaced discoloration patched along the ridge of his
back. It almost looks like scarring but none of my other fish are
messing with him. He also will not eat. His diet has, until now
consisted of krill and live Fiddler crabs and he has always been
amazingly active. I performed a 50% water change 2 days ago as my pH
was at an all time low of 7.6. <Ugh, there is/was your problem.>
I know this is probably a major concern <You eel and I agree whole
heartedly.> (my nitrite was at 0, my ammonia at .25 and my nitrate
at 50-250) <One out of three is not good. Both ammonia and nitrite
should both be zero and your nitrate, anywhere in that range, is too
high.> but none of my other inhabitants are showing any symptoms.
<Give them time> I have a Navarchus angel that is my indicator
fish and he is the picture of health it seems. <For now> During
two outbreaks of ich, the angle picked it up but I treated the tank and
no other fish were affected. I have always thought the Zebra was one of
the hardiest. <Hardy but not immune to everything.> Why would he
be having problems when the others seem to be okay? <Merely a delay
in reactions.> Incidentally my tank is a 115 gallon with 2 triggers,
a jeweled eel, Mongo (the zebra), a Lunare wrasse, a Navarchus angel,
and a lipstick tang. Please, I am sure you are busy and you must get
contacted all the time with problems and questions, but I love this
fish, I will give up all the others to make sure he is okay,... can you
please help? <Water quality, water quality, water quality> Thank
you for your time, Jack Garrett <You are welcome. -Steven
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