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Professional ID ' er needed!   6/4/12
Hello everyone!
Can someone please id these polyps?
I haven't the slightest idea, as they don't 'open' or anything, but do seem to be multiplying!
This is their true colors too. Pretty ugly huh?
They don't pop and they are soft and slimy  :)
Thank you!
                 Pam
3 pictures for you
<Mmm, do I see two openings on each? Of dissimilar size? These are likely Tunicates/Ascidians... not harmful filter-feeders... indicative of livable conditions in this system. Bob Fenner>

Re: Professional ID ' er needed! Ahhh, Bob F. please?   6/4/12
Tunicates? Well, it's nice to have something for this $68 piece of rock!
When I first bought it 4 months ago, everything died off (or so I thought!) while the tank cycled.
Puzzling thing is that when I bought the rock, these animals were green.
Do you still think they're Ascidians?
<My best guess; yes. Need a better-resolved image to be surer. B>
Here are a couple more pictures I zoomed in on .
I got to say Bob, they look very happy! :

more id's please?      6/15/12
Can someone identify this "growth" in picture one and two?
<Ah yes... these are sponges Pam. An indication of steady, good conditions>
I've looked through WetWebMedia and other sites, and my guess is some sort of leather coral? It's getting bigger every day.
And the last picture, Bob fenner gave an educated guess of Tunicates. since then, I've researched these little squirts, and I just don't see  the inhalant and the exhalant siphon holes. They are more 'mottled' than anything else.
Thanks so much!!
Pam
<The third, circular, colonial bits are Sea Squirts still in my guestimation. Also harmless. Bob Fenner>

Unidentified Egg Casings? (and the unknown worm) – 5/26/12
Hello, I hope you are doing well.
<Thanks Rhi, and back at you.  How may I help you today?>
I got up this morning to find 9 transparent "things" sticking out of the sand bed and I hope you can assist in their identification.
<I’ll certainly try.>
They appear to be shell casings
<Definitely egg capsules/casings of some sort.>
…from something, my question is, what?
<That’s a good question. What snail species do you currently have in stock?>
They are approximately an inch to an inch and a quarter in height
<That’s a sizeable capsule.>
…and appear to have a base made of sand. A photo of dubious quality is included.
<It looks good to me, thanks.>
I have a good deal of diversity in my reef tank, including many species of snails and some odd creatures I sent pictures of before. Sadly we weren't able to identify those
<Yep, I remember those and despite further research, I still don’t know what they are.  Unsolved ID’s like that really prey on my mind until solved.>
..and upon advice I tried to remove one that was irritating a Duncan colony with tweezers and all the "fluffy parts" at its base flew off and are now populating multiple areas of rock around the tank and irritating various other corals at night.
<Oh no, I’m so sorry!  That’s the downside of not knowing what sort of creature we’re dealing with.>
Since those appear to reproduce via some kind of cloning at the base I don't suppose the eggs belong to the unidentified worm-thing.
<Nope, I would seriously doubt it.>
However, I will include a photo of it with its "babies" that I took once the worm was removed, just for curiosity's sake. I really would love to know what they are.
<You and me both!  I’m going to do some more research, ask some people and see what I can find. It may take awhile, but if/when I get an answer, I’ll be sure to let you know.>
Thanks for your time,
<You’re very welcome.  Do let me know what snail species you currently have and we’ll figure out which one left those capsules.>
Rhi
<Take care, Lynn Z>

Re: Unidentified Egg Casings? (and the unknown worm): Possible Babylonia Egg Capsules - 5/27/12
<Hello Rhi>
As you know, vendors of aquatic life are not the most accurate when it comes to labeling their "merchandise"
<Yes, unfortunately it’s not a priority for some.  It puts the onus on the consumer to beware and research before bringing any organism(s) home.>
… and I acquired my CUC from various places, but I will do my best to identify what I have in the tank now.
<Thanks, I appreciate it.>
Astrea snails (Astraea tecta)
<This has been reclassified as Lithopoma tectum but the old species name, Astraea tecta, is still widely used.  This is a broadcast spawner (eggs and sperm released into the water column), so it’s out of the running as far as producing egg capsules.>
Large Cerith snails (Cerithium sp.)
<Reproduction can vary with these but we can rule them out as well. Most that we see in the hobby leave either clear to translucent meandering ribbons dotted with eggs, or whitish, rope-like “snail trails” adhered to hard surfaces or sometimes anchored to, and strung across, seagrasses or macroalgae.>
Margarita snails (Margarites pupillus)
<These are broadcast spawners, so no capsules. They’re also a cooler-water species that doesn’t last long when exposed to the higher temperatures of reef systems.>
…tiny Nassarius snails (Nassarius sp.) - based on shell coloration there appears to be multiple types here
<Nope, no capsules here either.  They tend to deposit eggs in swaths and “trails” on hard surfaces.>
36 Caribbean Nerite snails (Nerita sp.)
<Nerites do produce capsules deposited in loose groupings, but they're typically low profile, white to cream-colored, and round to oval in shape.>
Stomatella varia
<These are broadcast spawners, so no capsules.>
2 huge "Orange spot Nassarius snails" (Babylonia formosae?) which now after looking up their scientific name am concerned are actually carnivorous whelks that killed rather than "cleaned up" my baby maxima clam that died recently. (The tank was laying fallow and so was being fed lightly due to dearth of fish)
<Yikes, yep Babylonia snails and bivalves are not a good combo – at least as far as the bivalves are concerned!  This species does however leave egg capsules that are typically adhered to a hard substrate.  Unfortunately I can’t find any photos for comparison.>
a couple of Turbo snails (Turbo fluctuosa)
<Turbo’s typically either broadcast spawn or release an egg mass, sometimes adhered to a surface, sometimes loose.>
The eggs are still present and unchanged in the tank and I look forward to hearing from you.
<Well, by process of elimination, the most likely candidate is the Babylonia snail.  It also makes sense because of the size (big snail - big capsules) but I’d feel a whole lot more confident if I could find a photo for confirmation.  If they are indeed from this snail, the young should begin to emerge after about 5 days and enter into a planktonic larval (”veliger”) stage that lasts around 8 - 10 days.  Unfortunately, the fact that they do go through a free-swimming phase limits their chance of survival as they are exposed to all manner of threat, from livestock as well as equipment.>
Thanks again for your time.
<You’re very welcome. Again, I’ll let you know if/when I’m able to give you an answer regarding the other worm-like critters.>
Rhi
<Take care, Lynn Z>

ID Help Please: Poriferan – 5/22/12
Hey gang,
<Hey there, Lynn here this morning.>
Any chance of helping me ID this please?? Is it a sponge or hard coral at least?!
<It’s a sponge/Poriferan. Please see the following link for more information: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sponges.htm >
Many thanks!
<You’re welcome! Take care, Lynn Z>

Re: ID Help Please: Poriferan – 5/22/12
Thanks ever so much! :-)
<You’re very welcome!>
Would you know, from the picture, which family/genus it belongs to?
<Not with any certainty, no.  Offhand it resembles a species of Clathrina (family Clathrinidae) but there are an awful lot of sponges out there and they can vary to surprising degree.   The best means of identification is actually through examination of the skeletal parts/spicules under a microscope.  Please see the following link for an example of a Clathrina species:  http://www.poppe-images.com/?t=17&photoid=935835  >
Thanks again!
<You’re most welcome! Take care, Lynn Z> 

white vines   5/4/12
Hi there,
 Huge fan of the site! I have never had to ask a question before have always been able to find what I was needing to know on your site. It is one very informative place here. Well this I couldn't find anywhere, I have been searching not only the web but your site for past 2 evenings and still nothing. I have something that looks like a vine, it is white and there are hundreds of these things coming from under one of my rocks on just one side of my tank. They have now crept over to a beautiful (what was) torch coral I have and climbed up the stalk of the torch and slowly taken it out. These things look just like a vine and are pure white, slowly spreading. I cant find a pic or any info on this whatsoever. really hope you can help me out here. I have attached 2 pictures and in these pictures what Im speaking of is in the background straight behind the torch. I have tried trimming a lot of this off so I hope you can see what Im talking about. Thanks in advance
Corey
<Can't quite make out these "vines" in your small pix... If they're retractile, my guess might be that this is some sort of "Spaghetti Worm" (do search w/ these words)... IF the growth is indeed mal-affecting the Euphyllia, maybe this is some sort of sponge, Hydrozoan... Please send along a larger, better resolved pic if you can. Bob Fenner> 

assistance with worm identification   - 4/18/12
Hello,
<Hi Rhi>
Firstly, thank you for the wealth of information and aquatic knowledge that is WWM.  You have helped me so much in the past, however, I must ask for some personal attention this time as I have been completely unable to find my answer despite much searching.
<Have been thinking re this all last night...>
There are 2 particular worms amongst many others in my mixed reef tank that I have been unable to identify. At night they extend to approx 3-4" but retract quickly in response to any light, including camera flashes, so my photos are of them retracted to about 1/2", as they are in the day. Could you please help identify them, and advise whether they are a threat to me, my fish or corals?
Thank you so much,
Rhi
<Don't know what this is... might be a worm, but... and I wouldn't remove it/them... Please do send along a better-resolved head/cephalic region image if you can. Bob Fenner>

Re: assistance with worm identification    4/20/12
Sorry about the delay getting back to you. I have made several attempts to get better pictures of these creatures with a number of cameras, including an underwater model. I took a great many pictures and included the better of them, sadly I don't think they are any more help than the last one I sent.
They  are very small and attached to a piece of rock that is at the base of a large arch so unable to be moved for photographing. I did take a short video of them and posted to YouTube in the hopes that it be of some assistance. http://youtu.be/iEPZ9HyuE70
One of these things is able to reach several heads of a Duncan coral when fully extended and appears to be at the least irritating them, causing some withdrawal, which is concerning to me. Also of note is that they are somewhat mobile as these 2 have been present in my tank for a lot longer than the piece of rock upon which they currently reside, but they have not moved from their current location for at least a month.
Thanks again for your time,
Rhi
<Still quizzical to me... these better pix show what look to be small "sucker" over the body of the animal... and it doesn't appear to be segmented, is capable of rapid retraction... Am going to send your mail/pix over to Lynn Zurik, our resident marine invertebrate ID expert... and hope she can state more. My guess is currently that this is some sort of Sea Pen, Pennatulacean... Bob Fenner>

Re: assistance with worm identification    4/20/12
Thanks Bob, this thing has been bugging me since the first time I saw it! 
Offhand it doesn't strike me as a Polychaete but there are an awful lot of odd ones out there so who knows?  Thankfully I've got some time today, and some other possibilities tumbling about in my mind, so I'll see what I can find.
 Take care,
 -Lynn 
<Thank you Lynn... does not appear segmented... and the rapid movement? B>
Re: assistance with worm identification – 4/20/12

<<Hi Rhi, Lynn here today trying to figure out what sort of critter you have!>>
Sorry about the delay getting back to you. I have made several attempts to get better pictures of these creatures with a number of cameras, including an underwater model. I took a great many pictures and included the better of them, sadly I don't think they are any more help than the last one I sent.
<<Actually, they’re very good.  I was able to see a lot more detail, but unfortunately, I don’t have a concrete ID for you.>>
They are very small and attached to a piece of rock that is at the base of a large arch so unable to be moved for photographing. I did take a short video of them and posted to YouTube in the hopes that it be of some assistance. http://youtu.be/iEPZ9HyuE70
<<It’s great, thanks!>>
One of these things is able to reach several heads of a Duncan coral when fully extended and appears to be at the least irritating them, causing  some withdrawal, which is concerning to me.
<<That’s understandable.  I would opt for manual removal of this individual.  Just take a pair of tweezers (or similar), grasp where it’s attached to the rock and detach).>>
Also of note is that they are somewhat mobile as these 2 have been present in my tank for a lot longer than the piece of rock upon which they currently reside, but they have not moved from their current location for at least a month. Thanks again for your time, Rhi
<Still quizzical to me... these better pix show what look to be small "sucker" over the body of the animal
<<Yep, they look like the tube feet you see on Echinoderms, and the main “body” looks like it could be a Cuke/Holothuroid of some sort, but the feeding apparatus is all kinds of wrong for a Cuke that appears to be a suspension or filter-feeder.>>
... and it doesn't appear to be segmented. Am going to send your mail/pix over to Lynn Zurik, our resident marine invertebrate ID expert... and hope she can state more.
<<I sure wish I could, but I’m not sure what that thing is.  I haven’t given up though, so if I do figure it out, I’ll let y’all know.>>
My guess is currently that this is some sort of Sea Pen, Pennatulacean... Bob Fenner>
<<Yep, that’s the closest I can get at the moment as well – maybe something in the genus Veretillum with closed polyps?? Sorry I couldn’t be of more assistance! Take care, Lynn Z>>

Is this a friend or foe in my aquarium? 2/9/12
Hi
<Bob>
I stumbled upon your website a few days ago while trying to identify some things that are going on in my wife Teal's aquarium. I bought this established aquarium a few months ago and it is our first large aquarium.
She has also maintained an 8 gallon biocube for about a year with good luck.
<A feat!>
This tank was purchased with lots of Liverock. Critters that came with it were a tomato clown, a Naso tang,
<I hope this tank is large... at least a six foot length. See WWM re Naso lituratus care>
and a percula clownfish. We also got a few anemones in the tank as well as some large snails and feather duster worms. When we were tearing the tank down before moving it, the guy mentioned that they found worms in the tanks, possible bristle worms.
<No big deal generally>
Today my wife said that she removed a few of the worms from the tank. When we set up the tank in our house we put in 80 lbs of aragonite sand.
There are a couple spots like what is shown in the picture in the tank and it is a concern of hers. There appear to be a few snail like creatures living in this stalagmite looking tube.
<Indeed they are. Please see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/MolluscPIX/Gastropods/Prosobranch%20PIX/Vermetids/tubesnailidf.htm>
At times we see a web like material
stringing from them and it appears that they are catching or snagging floating debris and them reeling it back in for them to feed on.
<Well put>
Can you identify what is in this picture and can/should I leave them alone?
<Are tube snails of some sort and I would keep them>
Are they harmful to her tank? If I need to remove them, what is the best way?
<Not harmful. IF you wanted to remove, best to use a pliers or such, and break off the base of whatever they're attached to>
I love your site (from what I've seen) and will be back to do more identification on things in her tank.
Thanks very much!
Bob and Teal
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>

Need help with an ID 1/4/12
Hello and thank you for the site. It has been super informative.
<Welcome>
I have recently bought a colony of Clove polyps and have found a couple of "free" specimens on the rock. I have searched your site at length, using Eric's tips, and cannot find this coral(?).
<Mmm, please send along a well resolved photo>
It consists of tubes stacked vertically around each other, in groups of three, five, and seven tubes. They are gray in color and are connected on the substrate, like the Cloves are. They are also reactive to touch and pull in a bit, they do not retract fully like Cloves do. The center tube is higher than the others by one or two mm. I have a picture but could not compress it below 900 kb, am trying to follow your guidelines as stated.
<Do send this along. This size is fine>
I can send if file size ok. They are semi-soft to the touch and flexible, cannot see sclerites or skeleton as color is opaque. The tubes terminate at top with feathery tips but no "flowers". Thank you for any help you can offer.
<Does "sound" (read) like a Hydropolyp... Bob Fenner>

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