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Cichlid Question 8/13/13
Hey guys!
I have a question after reading your FAQ page. I have one
Jellybean Cichlid I've had for over 10 years. He is in a 75 gallon tank.
Water quality is great, feeding pellet food, has been healthy. Last week
stopped eating.
Swimming slower and hiding a bit more. Did a 25% water change (last
water change was 2 weeks ago). Filters working well. Did
another water change last night. He started to look bloated and
still wasn't eating so I removed the carbon and added Metron to the tank
per the directions - that was last night.
Now he is upside down at the bottom of the tank, gasping for air, and he
color is very deep orange. What am I doing wrong?
HELP!
Brenda
<Hello Brenda. The short answer is that without seeing the fish and
reviewing its aquarium, it's hard to be sure. But some factors are worth
considering:
(1) Constipation can and does cause problems for fish, especially
"deformed" varieties like fancy Goldfish and Blood Parrot (= Jellybean)
cichlids. The problem for these fish is that their spines are deformed
and their swim bladders displaced, and these factors make is difficult
for them to balance properly. Constipation is, of course, a solid lump
in the digestive tract, and if that causes the centre of mass to shift,
it's possible for the fish to find it difficult to maintain its correct
orientation. Some writers here at WWM refer to this as "floaty, bloaty
goldfish" syndrome. Diet is often the key factor, a lack of fibre being
what causes constipation, and both Goldfish and Blood Parrots (indeed,
most cichlids) would be partly or primarily herbivorous in the wild, so
given a processed diet based around flakes and meaty foods like
bloodworms, they often end up constipated. It's easily fixed though;
read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/gldfshmalnut.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/SaltUseFWArtNeale.htm
(2) Water quality is another issue. Your fish is fairly old, cichlids of
this size and origins tending to live for around 10-12 years, sometimes
more. A water quality "dip" that might have been shrugged off by a
younger fish could be hard work, even fatal, to an older fish. Keeping
up with water changes, and certainly ensuring 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite,
will go a long way to putting this right. Provided no other symptoms
(like Finrot) appear, there's no treatment necessary, just time and good
water quality.
Do also ensure the water has moderate hardness to buffer against pH
drops between water changes. Blood Parrots are hybrids of uncertain
origins but likely from Central American cichlids, so you're aiming for
10-20 degrees dH, pH 7-8. Exact values don't matter, but water chemistry
should be staple, and rapid pH drop in particular can make hard water
cichlids go "loopy", spinning about as if they can't control themselves.
In short, monitor water quality, add some Epsom salt, and switch to a
greens-based diet until the fish recovers. Nothing difficult or
expensive!
Good luck, Neale.>
Re: Cichlid Question 8/13/13
Neale
Thank you for the advice.
<Welcome.>
Unfortunately he died last night.
<Sorry to hear this.>
He was the last parrot fish in my tank.. I used to have two of the same
age. The last one passed away about 3 months ago under similar
circumstances.
<I see.>
I do partial water changes every 2 to 3 weeks and change the filters at
that time. A day or two later I check the water quality... this
time the nitrates and nitrites were both at 0. the ammonia level
was also 0, pH 8.5, but the alkalinity was high (>300) even after 3
partial water changes.
These tests were done using test strips... should I lower the alkalinity
and pH? I was under the impression that parrot fish like a higher
pH...
<They do; if water chemistry is stable and alkaline, I wouldn't worry
too much about the precise values. In other words, if you've had success
with Central American cichlids in this kind of water, and you have,
stick with it. Of course, yes, this water is not ideal for, say, South
American cichlids.>
Now I'm trying to decide if I should add new fish to the tank... I
cleaned it today and will let it sit a day or two before checking the
water again.
I'm worried that I'm missing something and I don't want to subject new
fish to whatever's wrong.
Any further advice? I already miss my fish:(
<If the tank is empty, keep adding pinches of fish flake every couple
days to give the biological filter something to feed on, otherwise the
bacteria will die back.>
Brenda
<Cheers, Neale.>
Parrot Cichlids With Hole-In-The-Head - 2/28/2006 HELP.
About two months ago My 2 parrots who are around 2.5 years old - we
had them from babies, started to develop fungus type
'sores' on their head (no where else, and none of my other
Cichlids have this problem) then it disappeared only to return
again and now I need help. I treated them for Velvet, Fungus, Hole
in the head etc., to no avail. Although my water qualities etc.,
were fine, water temp was tried at between 24-28 (this was double
checked by Maidenhead Aquatics) I changed to the fish shops own
water in the hope it would make a difference - it didn't. I
have not added any new fish, gravel, plants etc., Food is still the
same dried in morning and frozen in evening (Krill, bloodworms,
Mysis, Green food, Artemia etc). I do a water change every week,
(sucking up all pop from gravel in process) I have tried to do it
daily, every other day, weekly and even longer - no difference. The
last month 'his' sore has got bigger and does not seem to
be responding to anything. He is eating well and his stools are
normal. For the last month, 'he' has started to hang round
the top of the tank as if trying to get more oxygen, rapid gill
movement (compared to the other parrot) and generally looking off
colour doesn't really want to move, and when he dose it looks
like he hasn't got full balance, although he eats well, and
moves fast and straight into the caves when startled. The other
parrot I am sure knows something isn't right as she is hanging
below him instead of her usual haunt the caves. I have a 5'
tank and an external Fluval 404 pump. I am an experienced Cichlid
keeper but was given these fish from my son, they are magnificent
and very clever and cunning. I have no trouble between my fish
what's so ever, if anything the parrots rule the tank, or at
least did. I have photos of his head if it will help anyone to help
me. My local fish shop said that as they are a hybrid fish, they
are not as healthy and tolerant to changes as the normal cichlid
and that they don't know much about them as they don't and
never will stock these fish. < Do a 50% water change, vacuum the
gravel and clean the filter. The drug of choice is Metronidazole,
but you need to get it inside the fish. Take some live Calif black
worms or Tubifex and wash them very well. Place them in a
disposable plastic cup or bowl. Drain off most of the water. Add
Metronidazole to the worms. It should kill the worms. Immediately
feed them to your affected fish. You know it is working when the
pits turn black. This disease is thought to be caused by stress.
Things like dirty water or a lack of minerals/ vitamins have also
been thought of as a cause. If the fish are not eating then treat
the water . It may help but will not be as effective as getting the
medication inside the fish.-Chuck> |
Hole-In-The-Head Cichlid Photos - 3/1/2006 Thanks
for this advise, did you see the second email I sent to you from
home last night with photos on this fishes head - showing this
complaint? It may help, also do you think it is Hole in
the Head or Fungus etc???? Many thanks Sheena
Jolliffe < We got the photos and the reply is still the same.
They are posted on the site.-Chuck> |
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