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Acropora dying 10/17/07 <HI Craig> Hi everyone, I am currently at a loss for what is going on with one in particular coral. It is a blue Acropora millepora that i have had for quite sometime now. In the last few days it just started dying from the bottom up. The rest of my corals are doing great so I don't know what could possibly be happening. It has good water flow, it is in the upper half of the tank so i don't think it is being deprived of light, and i feed the corals three times a week with DT's and oyster eggs. Let me give you a run down of the water parameters/system overview. pH- 8.2 ammonia- 0 nitrite - 0 nitrate - about 5ppm dKH- 9 calcium- 420 temperature- 76F at night and 78F in the day lighting- 1x 250watt double ended MH 20K, 2x 65watt actinics. tank size- 36gal HOB SeaClone skimmer Fluval 305 canister filter Hydor Koralia power heads (one of the 4's, two of the smaller sized 2's) and a MaxiJet 400 I haven't added anything to the system in a few months. This coral was having nice growth and good polyp extension until four days ago i noticed a little dead tissue around the base of the coral. Once i saw this it went very quickly downhill. I fragged off the tips that still had some life in them in hopes i could grow it out again but had no such luck. The frags now are fading as well. Last night i went on a Acropora predator hunt and only came up with a few Stomatella snails that i haven't seen before and what looked like baby emerald crabs. I didn't get a good look at the little crabs because they scurried off like cockroaches when i flicked the light on to see. Hopefully one of you charming fellows can give me some insight as to what could have happened. Thank you guys in advanced and keep up the great work you guys do over there. <Sorry to hear about this trouble. With out personally seeing the corals I can only speculate. RTN (Rapid Tissue Necrosis) is a Acro disease that causes the tissue to quickly die off of the skeleton. The causes can be viral, a pathogen, environmental stress like a spike in temperature, or from an aggressive species messing with it. The second thing is Acro Eating Flat Worms (AEFW). These little pests are very small and the exact same color as the coral they are feeding on. They feed from the base up. Because the tips you fragged where healthier and then succumbed to the same fate it is possible that you have an infestation. Again, purely speculation, but they do feed from the base up. Keep an eye on the other SPS corals in the tank. If they show signs of the same symptoms they should be removed to a Quarantine tank and treated with Flatworm Exit as a precaution. Diagnosing this problem is very difficult with out first hand knowledge. Try searching RTN and AEFW within WWM FAQ's. Your water parameters are well within reason, so a pathogen or predator is the probable cause. HTH-Rich aka Mr. Firemouth> Mysterious Coral Bleaching, Not Such A Mystery (Antibiotics Administered To The Display System) -- 08/08/07 Dear WWM Crew, <<Hello Bill>> Please lend me your thoughts. <<Sure thing>> Recently (within the past week) I noticed two Montipora corals in my tank that have been acclimated and growing well begin to bleach. Within the past two days a few small Pocillopora and Acropora began to bleach as well and polyps hid. <<Mmm, an environmental issue of some sort>> I've checked the tank parameters - everything seems rather on par -- 75 gallon tank -Alkalinity - 4.2 (may be a bit high?) <<Considering you Calcium is over 400...yes, a bit>> -Calcium - 420 -Nitrate - 0 -Temp - 74 - 76 night and day <<Probably fine but a little on the cool side in my opinion>> -SG- 1.024 <<Better than many I've seen but bumping to NSW levels (1.025/1.026) is best>> -Lighting - 2 * 250 10K, 4 * 96 actinic. All the corals have loved the light to this point. <<Unless the bulbs are 'very' old this is likely not the issue>> I think my problem may be one of two things, or a combo of both. I used a cycle of "Chemi Clean" Cyanobacteria remover which threw my protein skimmer way out of cycle. <<Ugh! It has done much more harm than that I fear...you have likely wiped out much of your biological filtration. You didn't list an Ammonia reading but you need to check this right away...as well as preparing/performing large water changes and adding chemical filtration (Carbon/Poly-Filter/Chemi-Pure) to try to keep the buildup of nitrogenous compounds under control until bacteria has a chance to repopulate>> It is creating massive amounts of micro-bubbles so I haven't been able to run it properly. <<Possibly overcome by the increased organics load...perhaps you can adjust it 'down' a bit>> I am doing a third partial water change today (in the last week) to try to remove excess chemicals so I can get my skimmer running normally (not overflowing the collection cup constantly). <<The water changes probably explain why your Nitrate reading was zero. Do try to get the skimmer back in service...perhaps throttling it back a bit to slow down the overfilling of the skimmer cup>> There is also one leather coral in the tank, could the lack of chemical filtration for the past two weeks, or that in conjunction with the leather emitting toxins be killing these previously healthy corals? <<Is definitely a contributor...at the very least is exacerbating the situation. Get some chemical filtration going!>> Any advice? <<Yes...don't administer antibiotics to your display system...and start reading here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bluegralgae.htm>> Thanks! Bill <<Regards, EricR>> Montipora question, dis. 5/22/07 Greetings- Question for the pros...have you guys ever heard of a bacterial infection on Montiporas? <Yes> I have a colony that looks like it has RTN. The tissue is actually coming off. The person I got it from has the same problem with the same Monti. Param.s are all normal (if there is such a thing). <You tell me> Any suggestions? <Re?> I don't mind loosing <losing...> the piece, but am more concerned about the others in the tank. I am positive it is not Monti nudi.s and the only other thing I could come up with is bacterial unless you know otherwise. Have fun at IMAC. Wish I could make it out to meet both of you in person, but my brothers wedding will be taking up my time. Hopefully future endeavors will allow us to run into each other. Also, Bob - have you heard from Walt lately? <A month or so back... am pretty sure he's still in Fiji...> I haven't heard back from him and wanted to make sure everything was all right. Until then. Cheers. Justin <... You have read on WWM re stony coral, SPS, Acroporid disease? Bob Fenner>
Acro Color -- 04/30/07 Sometimes I wonder the average number of questions you get hourly on your site... Sorry to bother you but I had a question I haven't been able to find an answer to normally. I recently purchased a dark green Acro (no specific name was given by the online retailer) about 2 or 3 weeks ago. In the bag it was a nice dark green color, they labeled it Hunter Green, similar in color to perhaps grass. At any rate, after about a week or two I noticed its color changing from green base with whitish polyps to something else. The base/skeleton is like a Coral Lipstick or Peach color with white polyps, even when viewed from an angle, straight on, or from above. I'm kind of wondering if its similar to an anemones Zooxanthellae (sp?) that can be expelled due to some sort of stress? <Yes> He's on a high point in the tank, around 3" in width total <Mmm... well, depending on your lighting... and how this colony has been kept recently... starting it down in depth a bit to start is generally advised> if I'm being generous, and he's grown about a 1/2" total since I got him (I'm so proud!). It completely baffles me, wish I had a before/after picture but I never got to take a before pic. I haven't moved him at all since placing him in the tank and the only potential predators are a small Green Bubble Tip Anemone, <Incompatible... could be your answer here> which is smaller than the Acro, and a dime-sized hermit crab that hasn't taken notice to him. There's also a Yellow Watchman Goby - awesome fish! - but no other mobile buddies. I've been dosing Kent Invert food every few days for my small Crocea clam, about a drop per gallon or less depending on my steadiness with my hands. I was also thinking that I haven't glued him to a rock, he's sitting on the rock and I was just going to let him do his thing. The color doesn't really bother me, I really like it, but I want to make sure its not a sign of something bad. The polyps are still extending and he's in an area of pretty high flow, so maybe he's just playing Chameleon? I have PC lights and the tank is only about 8" deep, I'm just scared that he's starting to bleach for some error on my part and I really don't want that. Thanks. <Mmm... well, the growth and polyp extension are good signs... and if you don't mind the color change... I would leave all as is. Such color changes are often due/led by lighting, current, water quality differences... Bob Fenner> HELP... Montipora hlth.
02/17/07 Hi guys, I will probably get scolded for
this one, I didn't research nor spell check. (Sorry) I will never
do it again, but I need you desperately and quickly. I ordered a
Montipora Cap offline. Great piece and excellent seller. He shipped On
via USPS on Tuesday. I just got it in. This thing is gorgeous, only it
has been in shipping bag, lost in mail for 3+ days. I floated it for 10
minutes and placed carefully in hospital/quarantine tank directly under
BioWheel filter output. I have nothing in the tank but live rock and a
pair of sailfin mollies to keep unused tank cycling. Due to live rock
and usage for quarantine on live rock as well as new corals, I keep
regular additions of strontium and calcium in this tank. Salinity is
1.023, PH 8.3, Nitrates 10, nitrites 0, ammonia 0. I have low 30 watt
Pc lighting on quarantine tank. The color is very pale on the Monti,
the water was bad cloudy and pretty pungent odor. I actually tested the
bag water once I got the coral removed from the toxic waste. I was
amazed nitrates 10, Ammonia <50, nitrites 0, temp was very cool
68-70 (guessing) Ph was just below 8.0 reading. Is there anything else
I can do for it? Please help. Seller has been great, says he will
refund or replace but has nothing comparable to this guy. It wasn't
his fault anyway. Please help me! I have never owned a Monti yet always
wanted one. I have researched plenty about their general maintenance,
but nothing about recovery or emergency care. What advice can you give
and what can I expect for his pending doom. He definitely isn't
happy, and had some pretty drastic temp changes I'm sure between CA
and SC.
Thanks
for being there!!!
Cindy
<<Cindy: At this point, the best thing you can do is provide it
with clean water, good flow and decent lighting. Since the
coral is obviously stressed out from the move, you should not disturb
it for a few days. Hopefully, it will quickly adjust to the
conditions of your tank and recover quickly. Best of luck,
Roy>>
Nice SW Sys., too many incomp. Cnid.s
1/16/07 Hi WWM Crew. You've given me great advice in the past.
I hope you can help me now. I'll start with my equipment and
parameters. 75 Gallon mostly SPS 1 Tunze 6100 and 6095 controller
Berlin skimmer rated up to 250 gallons wet dry trickle filter 2 250W
HQI 15K 2 PC Actinic 125W Specific Gravity 1.025 Ammonia 0 Nitrate 0
Nitrite 0 PH 8.4 DKH 11 Calcium 450 2 A.
Millepora 2
Monti Digitata Superman
Monti Spaghetti
Leather Yellow Branching
Porites Galaxea
Acropora Blue
Tort Pavona
Chips
Acropora Turbinaria
Tri Color
Acropora Green
Frogspawn
Pectinia Button
Polyps Pagoda
cup Green
Star Polyps Candy Cane
Coral Orange
Monti Cap Yellow Sun
polyps Pocillopora
Christmas Tree
Coral Chili
Coral Blue ridge
Heliopora Pulsing
Xenias Brown Hairy Mushrooms <Yowzah... a bunch/myriad of competing
Cnidarian species> Blue Hippo Tang 2 Tomato Clowns Blue Damsel Kole
Tang Fairy Wrasse Wow I think that's it. My problem is with my
Superman Monti two parts of it are turning white. I know that's a
bad sign. I have no bleaching on anything else. The Superman
Monti's neighbors were the GSP and Button Polyps would either of
those have anything to do with its color change? <Could very well,
yes> Also my Chili Coral doesn't extend its polyps like it used
to. <This Nephtheid is not easily kept> It is under a ledge
receives little to no light <No problem with the lack of light
here... is non-photosynthetic> and has great flow. If you have any
advice or suggestions on either of these problems please help. Thanks
again guys. Omar <Time to move some of these colonies really...
there is too much really non-compatible life types crammed in here...
Please read: http://wetwebmedia.com/cnidcomp2faq.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner> |
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