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Elegance coral and worms in skeleton 8/13/13
Hi,
<Kel>
It's been ages since I've had to ask you guys for some help, usually
reading through is all I need to do as you guys have so much knowledge
on so many topics already. It's fantastic and super helpful in this
hobby.
<Ahh!>
About 6 weeks ago a bought a small elegance, it was bagged and a
acclimated it to the tank through drip, placed it on the sand in my
tank, 30 inches below a 40 watt LED DIY light.
<Should be fine... at this "great" depth and lowish light... See my art.
re Catalaphyllia captive husbandry on WWM. There are "stands" of this
species from shallower (tens of feet) depths, but most in the last
several years have been collected from several tens of feet... low
light>
It's been happy, getting fed Mysis, brine, and it's also been taking
spectrum pellets which happen to fall into it every second day or so.
Tonight it closed up and I noticed three circular dents in the skeleton,
which indented into the fleshy part of the coral. I noticed one of this
dents when I placed it in the tank, but I thought they were empty and
harmless misshapes in the rock. However tonight it appears to be that
the little holes/dents actually contain flat headed cream coloured worms
approx 6mm in diameter.
<Mmm, more likely these are (mesenterial) parts of the Elegance itself;
showing themselves... >
They emerge from these hollow dents and are sensitive to light, when a
torch is shined on them, they retract into the tubes which are embedded
in the skeleton. The elegance seems to have grown around them, despite
the animal being an entire cone itself, not fragmented off a reef.
<Yes; this is how this species "grows", lives... as a sort of "V" stuck
in muck, bottom sand plus>
I'm not sure if they pose a problem, and am curious is some kind of dip
may be best to get rid of them? What are you thoughts?
<Leave all as is, and do read the materials on WWM if you haven't
already>
Thanks very much,
Kelly
<As many welcomes. Bob Fenner>
Re: Elegance coral and worms in skeleton
8/19/13
Thanks for such a prompt reply, ill take a photo of the 'worms' next
time I see them. It's more a tube worm facing up out of the skeleton
rather than the small worm like filaments that are actually
mesenterial... But I could easily be wrong haha. What I'm seeing are
similar to worms which emerge out of large circular tubes on live rock
sometimes
<A possibility; and quite common is some Poritids, Pocilloporids... Have
rarely seen/encountered in Catalaphyllia... are perhaps "too stinging",
fleshy...>
You don't think the lighting level may be too low?
<I'd use a PAR or PUR meter, measure at the place/site of the
specimen... a score of 100 is fine here. BobF>
Sponge Growth on Elegance Coral -- 04/30/07 <Hello
James Brown! Mich here'¦ and I feel
good! Sorry, I couldn't resist.> About 2 months ago I
notice a white sponge growing on the outside shell of my Elegance
Coral. <OK.> It has now completely covered the top and bottom of
the shell and looks like it might be growing inside. <Is the
Elegance opening fully? Does the sponge seem to be
interfering with the overall happiness of the coral? If so,
then remove the sponge, if not, then you may want to let it be.>
I'm thinking it might be time to pull the Elegance out and expose
to the air to kill the sponge. <I would not do this. If
you want to remove the sponge I would do so manually while underwater
and collect the pieces and discard them outside of the
system. Dying sponges can create real problems, exposing
them to air and replacing in your system is unwise in my opinion.>
Have not done it yet because the coral is epoxied to a piece of live
rock. Should I get rid of the sponge or leave it alone? <I would
leave it alone unless the Elegance is showing signs of stress.>
Thanks - Jim <You're welcome! Mich>
Elegance problem Hi! I have a
problem. My elegance, purple tipped, was doing wonderfully
until one of my fish started nipping at him. I removed the
fish but the elegance has stayed sucked in in the middle where I saw
the fish nip at him. Now other fish, a yellow tang, has
begun to pass by and nip at him. I fear he will not
recover. I moved him a little higher on the rock as many of
my fish do not go there as much. Is there anything I can do
to help him heal? He's near the top of my 75 gallon
tank. Please help - I do not want to lose him. <Kara,
elegances can be fairly delicate. Moving him up was a wise idea but you
might also check on some of the discussion groups about elegance
corals. I seem to remember someone, I think Eric Borneman doing a study
on these corals. They are known to just begin having problems out of
the blue. I believe I read about this on www.fragexchange.com and
www.reefcentral.com. The coral will need stable water conditions and
good foods to recover but should recover if the nipping stops. MacL>
Elegance Hi! <Hello. Graham at your service.>
I have a problem. <Okay.> My elegance, purple tipped, was doing
wonderfully until one of my fish started nipping at him. I
removed the fish but the elegance has stayed sucked in in the middle
where I saw the fish nip at him. Now other fish, a yellow
tang, has begun to pass by and nip at him. I fear he will
not recover. I moved him a little higher on the rock as many
of my fish do not go there as much. Is there anything I can
do to help him heal? <If the fish are bothering the
elegance, either the coral or fish has to go. Unfortunately, once fish
get the taste for the flesh of corals (Especially large polyped
Scleractinians, such as your elegance), they don't seem to give it
up very easily. I can recommend, however, to feed the fish often,
preferably small amounts throughout the day. This may stop the fishes
urge to feed on the coral. Another point is that Yellow Tangs do not
often nip at corals. Is the tang nipping at the fleshy area of the
coral, or the skeleton? Secondly, how long does the coral stay
"sucked in" after the fish nip at it? How long have you had
the coral? Elegance corals are not very hardy, and many have a poor
survival rate in captivity if not kept under certain water conditions.
Generally, they prefer strong light and high nutrient levels,
especially since the majority of elegance corals are being collected
from shallow nutrient rich areas.> He's near the top of my 75
gallon tank. Please help - I do not want to lose him. <I
look forward to hearing a response from you. Elegance corals are indeed
very beautiful. Take Care, Graham.>
Elegance Coral Problem Hello, Thanks for the nice service.
Always very helpful. I got an elegance coral recently, it seemed to be
settling fine, till I fed it once with brine shrimp. Several hermit
crabs got to the shrimps as well and have started picking on the
elegance. <You said you got the coral recently. I do not know what
recently means to you, but it is a very common story. While you may
have thought your Elegance was "settling fine", it may not
have been. The hermit crabs are feeding on necrotic tissue. I can tell
you a healthy Elegance has a strong sting and ho hermit crab is going
to be able to mess with it. There is an incredible amount of writings
on Elegance corals and there demise over the last few years. Elegance
were previously thought to be hardy. I know, I have one from seven
years ago. The thing goes like crazy. There are various suggested
reasons for why hobbyists are having problems now including shipping
trauma, some unknown bacterial infection, etc. My opinion is that these
somewhat different corals now. They appear different, are collected in
different areas, and their skeleton is morphologically different and
yet we treat them the same. Also, there is a lot of rather poor
shipping of LPS corals, IMO. I strongly prefer to see all LPS shipped
suspended from Styrofoam rafts that do not allow the tissue to abrade
against the bag in transit.> They are coming back for more. The
coral has closed mostly and has started to produce a very thick white
slimy excretion. Can you give some idea what's going on. Tank
parameters are: 30 gal/4 NO @30W SP 1.023 Temp: 78 DKH 11.2 PH 8.1 Ca
410 Nitrite/Amm - Undetectable Nitrate ~ 6 ppm Phosphate ~ .025
<These all seem good.> Thanks a lot in advance. Pabak
<Unfortunately, nothing magical I can tell you. For the time being,
removing the crabs would be my course of action and hoping for the
best. -Steven Pro>
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