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Betta Success
Doing what it takes to keep Bettas healthy long-term
by Robert (Bob) Fenner
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Help with Betta; hlth. 5/20/16
Hello!
I'm not sure if you'll be able to help me, but it's worth a shot.. I rescued
a Betta from my local grocery store a little over a year ago. He was in a
tiny cup on display and I seen him there for at least a couple weeks before
I decided to rescue him from that tiny cup :( he has been in perfect health
since I brought him home. He lives in a 5.5 gallon tank with a filter &
heater. His water stays at 80‹ and gets weekly water changes..
<Very good conditions>
A couple days ago I noticed he wasn't acting like his normal chipper self. A
day or two later I noticed a little hole (possibly a wound) on the side of
his gill cover that seemed to have something white growing out of it. There
was only one white spot, it wasn't fuzzy and it was larger than a grain of
salt. I started treating his tank with jungle lifeguard as soon as I noticed
it.
<Where would this fish have picked up a pathogen, parasite? Have you added
any livestock in this whole time, feed live foods?>
He stopped eating for a couple days and was very lethargic. I also noticed
he seemed to be trying to itch the spot by rubbing against the tank
decor/gravel... After a day or two or treatment, the white spot fell off and
looked almost like the "wound" was turning a grayish color.. Today I noticed
the spot looked more red/orange and it almost looks like something is trying
to get out from under his skin/scales... I've been researching this non stop
for days with no prevail.. Although he has been acting like he feels MUCH
better I am still worried about the spot.. He has started eating again & has
been swimming around like normal for the last two days, unlike the prior
days that he would not eat, laid motionless at the bottom of the tank, or
stayed at the top breathing regular air at the surface.. I will attach
pictures that I just took of the spot on him. I'm almost wondering if it
could be fish lice, although I would have no idea how he could have
contracted it. He has no tank mates and has never been fed live food.. Any
opinions on what this could be or ideas for treatment would be VERY
appreciated!
Thank you so much,
Nichole
<What do you feed this fish? Are there live plants present? Bob Fenner>
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tumor?
Re: Help with Betta 5/21/16
It seems to be protruding out more and more. Could this be some type of
parasite breaking out from inside him?
<... your files are too large.... And you should just read.... Start
here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/BetDisParaF.htm
and the linked files above. My guess is on this being a tumorous growth
of some sort. BobF>
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Re: Help with Betta 5/21/16
No live plants. He eats a variety of tetra Betta pellets, flakes & freeze
dried brine shrimp. Although the today the growth turned white?
<Perhaps a bit of healing tissue>
It resembles Columnaris slightly, but the white looks like more of a hard
white matter clumped together rather than a fuzzy cotton like texture. I'll
attack another photo.
<Please re-size to a few hundred Kbytes max. B>
Re: Help with Betta 5/21/16
Sorry about that, hopefully these pictures will be smaller.
<Thank you. B>
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Re: Help with Betta 5/21/16
Now the white piece fell off once again.. I've been reading the link you
sent me. I haven't found anything that resembles his issue quite yet. I've
actually been researching this non stop for days now & haven't seen one case
quite like his. Thank you for all your help, I sure do appreciate it!
<Strange.... do you have a fish store nearby... that has, uses a microscope?
A liaison w/ a school or institution that might render you assistance in
sampling and looking at tissue from this are at 400 plus power? B>
Re: Help with Betta 5/21/16
I do have a fish store about 30 minutes away from me. I'll definitely give
them a call in the morning to see if they could help out! I actually have a
microscope that goes up to 400.
<Good to both>
I don't think I would know what to look for or at, but I'll be sure to ask
the associates at my LFS if they would know what to do if I bring it in for
them. Again, thank you so much!
<Welcome. BobF>
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Re: Help with Betta 5/25/16
Hello!
Sorry to bother you again!
<Not a bother>
Unfortunately I've had no luck with any of the fish stores within 50 miles
of me being able to help identify my Berta's issue. I am become more and
more convinced that this is somehow a parasite.
<I am not... in these further pix this appears to be a wound site. Perhaps
this fish dashed itself against something sharp?>
I have no idea how it would have got into his tank unless they have been
inside him the whole time & are just now starting to cause a problem.
<Highly unlikely; as alluded to before>
I have some new pictures that really look like some sort of worm with
antennae. Since it's much more visible now,
<Can't make this out in your pix>
I figured I would ask one more time if you've ever seen anything like this
or if you could possibly identify this mysterious thing growing out of his
body. Thanks again! I'll attach the photos below.
-Nichole
<I would not treat this system, fish... with medications, but continue to
provide good care/environment and nutrition alone. Bob Fenner>
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Re: Help with Betta
5/26/16
Okay, perfect! Hearing that makes me feel much better! Thanks again for all of
your help, it's very appreciated! Have a nice day!
<And you, B>
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Ill Betta with potential worm
5/12/16
<.... 14 megs... we ask that folks limit to a few hundred Kbytes....>
Hello! I have a 2 year old Betta that has been ill for around two months
now. I will try to condense this extensive journey as much as I can. When
healthy my Betta was in a planted ten gallon with 6 pygmy cories, one Nerite
snail, one blue and one yellow cherry shrimp.
<Good companions, bio-indicators>
Almost two months ago I noticed him excessively scratching against the
plants, tank walls, and driftwood. He would go so far as to dig himself
under the driftwood for a full body scratch. Soon he became extremely
bloated and very skinny, even though he was eating fine, and one eye began
to pop out and cloud. With the help of a forum I frequent, I decided to try
treating the tank with API General Cure and Epsom Salt because the
scratching pointed to parasites.
<Mmm; not necessarily, no. Some aspects of water quality, environment,
genetics will result in this behavior>
This proved to have no result besides killing the shrimp and one of the
cories.
<Oh yes>
I was not present for the entire treatment, so I didn't see the body of the
Cory, I was just unable to find him anywhere in the tank even if I removed
everything and pulled out the other cories. I assume he was eaten.
About a week after the first round of General Cure I decided to give it
another go, this time with the Betta in a half gallon hospital tank floating
in the main tank. Again, there was no results. I should note that there was
not any signs of parasites in his poop. They were perfectly clean.
At this point the symptoms looked much more like dropsy than anything. His
abdomen had swelled to an enormous size and he struggled to lift it off the
bottom of the tank. His one eye became fully clouded over to the point where
seems to be nearly blind on that side, and it was popping out horridly. I've
tried a variety of treatments since then. The first was
Epsom salt and Kanaplex, following the directions on the medication. That
proved useless, so I tried the baths as directed by
americanaquariumproducts.com. He got baths with Kanaplex, Furan 2, Epsom
salt, and Methylene Blue daily for half an hour. I briefly tried keeping the
Kanaplex in the hospital tank in addition to the baths, but it proved to
hard on him. These baths did help a tiny bit, but not enough. The website
said the medication could be safely double dosed for the bath, so that's
what I tried, twice daily. It provided the most results. His bloat went down
fairly well and he regained most swimming ability. Although he had
maintained a voracious appetite and good energy throughout, he was still
extremely skinny. Also, when viewed from above, the bloat was significantly
worse on one side than the other. Because he had been going through over a
month of treatment at this point and improvements had been made I decided to
give him a week break and see what happened.
His condition quickly reversed. The bloat returned full force, making his
stomach so heavy he would slowly sink to the bottom of the tank until it was
pressed up against the bottom. His eye popped out even further to the point
that I feared it would come out of his head. After his 5 day break, I
continued the baths with a slight adjustment. Instead of Methylene Blue I
used ParaGuard, which actually made his bloat even worse.
Today is when things got really weird. I've noticed a slight discoloration
under his right pectoral, but I assumed it was simply a result of the
extreme bloating on that side. He's always made it difficult to view or
photograph that side of his body for some reason. After his bath tonight I
was determined to get a good view of that side, and was very confused at
what I saw. It looks like a perfect spiral, much like a worm. It is a white
circle with a dark spiral in it. I cannot for the life of me figure out what
kind of organ displacement by the bloat could cause this impression on his
side. It looks like a worm curled up just under his skin.
<Might be... I would see/read on WWM re Anthelminthics>
The pictures I got are poor because of the angle of the spiral and the
bloat, but they're enough to get the general idea. Is this a worm?
I will post the pictures from oldest two newest and try to show the worst of
his symptoms the best I can.
Thank you for your potential help!-Sabrina
<Mmmm; what to you feed this fish? Have you read here?:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/BetDisViralF.htm
Do so. Bob Fenner>
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Re: Ill Betta with potential worm
5/13/16
I am so sorry it was so big! I could have swore I shrunk the picture
size way down.
<Heeee! Like my bank account?>
Would links to the pictures be better in the future?
<Ah yes; if need be huge, or a big video>
I have read both of those, but nothing seems to quite fit him.
<Mmm; on just reading your input from the one message, seeing the
images; my strong guess is that this is a tumorous growth... not
directly treatable. Search, read directly on WWM re this supposition>
I feed him Omega One Betta Buffet Pellets, New Life Spectrum pellets,
and Hikari frozen foods (bloodworms, daphnia, and Spirulina brine
shrimp). He's fed twice a day, 2-3 pellets each time or a roughly
equivalent amount in the frozen foods.
<I see>
I did get a better picture that shows the entire portion of the spiral
that can be seen without having to flip the Betta over. As the email
size is already so large (so sorry, once again!) I'm assuming a link
would be better?
Thanks,
-Sabrina
<Welcome. BobF>
Re: Ill Betta with potential worm 5/13/16
If I attach more than one picture again I'll shrink it down to the size
of my college student bank account. You may not be able to see the
picture much at all, but it'll be small!
<Heee!>
A tumor or cyst is what I have begun to think, but I can't figure out
why a tumor would produce a spiral pattern. I did entertain the idea of
trichinosis but it's unlikely.
<Perhaps another nematode>
If it is concluded that this is probably a tumor, would it be best to
euthanize him or let him live out the remainder of his life?
<Up to you... IF the fish doesn't appear to be suffering.... There are
spontaneous remissions.>
The mass/bloating/whatever this is does cause him some swimming
difficulty and occasionally make it difficult to get off the floor of
the aquarium.
Could he ever return to the main tank, or is he destined to float in it
in his pitiful half gallon for the rest of his life?
<I'd return the fish to the main tank>
Thank you again for your time,
-Sabrina
<W. B>
Re: Ill Betta with potential worm 5/14/16
Would you recommend attempting another method of deworming, just to be on the
safe side?
<Yes; worthwhile. I alluded to this earlier.... Prazi.... B>
Re: Ill Betta with potential worm 5/14/16
I'll be ordering PraziPro today then! I really hope this does the trick!
Thanks for all your help!
-Sabrina
<Certainly welcome. Bob Fenner>
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Betta is sick 4/24/16
I feel a little silly writing through email but I'm desperate. Desperate
time calls for desperate measures.
At first I believed my fish had dropsy but his scales weren't
protruding.
His belly has slowly expanded and has become white on the bottom. He has
been sick since February 12th which is why I ruled out dropsy. I think
it's a bacterial infection so I use Betta fix
<Of no use>
this week and have been using aquarium salt. PetSmart tells me
my water is always clean
<What does this mean?>
when I take him to get help. I have no test kit and my aquarium
is too small for a heater.
<Ah my friend; no. Bettas need continuously warm water. There ARE small
heaters>
A one gallon tank with a filter.
I thought he might get better on his own but now he just sits at the top
behind the filter, I put him in his cup to change his water and noticed
that he would roll onto his side like he didn't have the energy to hold
himself up. I've cried so much over my Betta. I don't think I have the
right to own him. Their genetics are for color not survival and it's
hurting him and me.
Please help me.
Thank you
<I would add Epsom Salt here, and have you read:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/bettasysart.htm
1. What does my Betta have?
2. How do I treat it?
3. What am I doing wrong?
<Likely environmental issue/s; fix its world. Bob Fenner>
Betta- eaten away body area near anal fin and lump on tail
4/4/16
Hello,
<K, C>
I hope you can help me with my Betta. I have researched and tried to find an
answer to what is wrong with him.
<Me too>
Facts:
5g heated aquarium 79 degrees
Tank mates are some shrimp and a Nerite snail
50% water changes weekly
He is probably 3 years old, in July 2016 I will have had him 3 years.
<Ahh; likely an important factor here.... senescense... old age. Please read
here Re:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/BettaGeneticDisF.htm>
He eats well and does not act sickly though he either sits on the sand or up
in the leaves. Does not or cannot swim for any period of time really.
His first symptom I noticed was this eaten away area near his anal fin. I am
attaching a picture. He also has a large lump on his tail fin that is the
same color as his fin but is raised with little black dots around it.
Its somewhere between 1/4-1/2inch in length. I don't have a picture of it
but in looking through the FAQ I have seen pics of others with the same
thing.
Hope you can help. I have been treating him for a month to no avail and am
on my last week of a different treatment.
Here is what I have used so far:
Week one: Kanaplex and Nitrofurazone
Week 2-3: Paraguard and .1% salt
Week 4: Maracyn 2 (Minocycline)
Week 5: this week, last ditch effort trying Kanaplex, Metroplex and
Paraguard, trying to find a broad enough spectrum antibiotic that will work.
<Well; you've exposed this fish to most every thing that might cure an
external bacterial, Protozoan issue.... I don't think the situation here
involves these however. Unfortunately the problems here are likely due to
"cumulative genetic defects"... getting olde. You may want to consider
euthanizing this fish. Please see Neale's piece re here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/euthanasiafaqs.htm
Bob Fenner >
Cindi L.
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Re: Betta- eaten away body area near anal fin and lump on tail
4/5/16
Thank you so much for your response. I have tried figuring this out for the last
month. You're the first one who said it was most likely old age/genetics!
Really appreciated. I ordered your kindle book :)
<Ahh; please do post a review on Amazon re. Bob Fenner>
Re: Betta- eaten away body area near anal fin and lump on tail
4/5/16
I sure will.
Do you recommend I finish dosing this last weeks medicine? I think I have one
more dose of Kanaplex and another weeks worth of MetroPlex.
<Yes; always worthwhile (as with human medicine) to complete treatment regimens.
Bob Fenner>
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Sick Betta 4/2/16
Hi there, I have a Siamese fighting fish, Sebastian, I've had him since
January this year. Have just noticed this one bubble thing just under his
jaw line near his under fins. I've attached some photos to show you. This
has never occurred before. Is he ill, what do I need to do?
Thank you,
Julie.
<Hello Julie. It's hard to say for sure. It looks like a pocket of skin
tissue filled with fluid. Usually these are environmental, or more
specifically, the fish has had its immune system weakened because of the way
it's being kept and/or fed, and an opportunistic infection has set in.
Now, this is where I have to get a bit school-teachery on you. We do ask
specifically people send images that are reduced in size, 500 KB for example
is ideal, so it doesn't clog up the email system. When our email allowance
is filled, other folks have their messages rejected. You sent four images,
each over 1.5 MB in size! Next up, we also ask for the particulars of the
environment. A photo and a message about your fish being
unwell isn't informative without context. This is doubly important with
Bettas because the biggest cause of sickness and mortality for them is poor
care. There are still people out there who think they don't need heaters,
don't need filters, and don't need more than a jar of water to live in.
Sad, but true. So please, help US to help YOU by providing some data. How
big is the aquarium? Does it have a heater? Does it have a filter? Grab your
nitrite or ammonia test kit, and send us the result. (On the other hand, if
you want to do something aggravating and completely pointless, tell us "the
lady in the fish shop said my water is fine" because that'll really send us
into a tailspin!) If you have water chemistry tests, do those: the pH at
minimum, but hardness is helpful too. I've cc'ed Bob Fenner, our Betta guru,
and author of a useful Kindle book I think you'd want to read... at $6,
cheaper than most of treatments and potions out there, so definitely going
to save you some money in the long run...
http://www.amazon.com/Betta-Success-Robert-Fenner-ebook/dp/B00HFAACII
Meantime, review the environment, check the heater and filter are working,
and keep up with your regular water changes (using water conditioner, of
course). The law of big numbers says "if your Betta is sick, it's probably
the environment" so making sure the environment is right is ALWAYS the first
step with these fish. Cheers, Neale.>
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re: Sick Betta
4/3/16
Hello,
Thanks for email, much appreciated.
<Glad to help.>
I decided to go and c proper aquarium place and showed them, they were unsure
to. However they fixed me up some anti fugal stuff and a few other things.
<He didn't have a fungal infection. Fungus looks like a patch of cotton wool
threads. Very distinctive! Don't add random medications.>
Plus one lady does up a special mix for Bettas, it has worms in it and i tell ya
my sebie he just loved it.
<May well enjoy them. A good variety of foods is important.>
His good now. I always make sure his tank temp is good and clean it out once a
week.
<I see you avoided answering my question about temperature. So no heater then?
This Betta will be dead soon. Guaranteed. Bettas need tropical conditions, and
unless you live somewhere tropical, your room temperature is too cold. Minimum
24 C/75 F! Please, get a heater. It isn't an optional upgrade. It's essential.
Like taking a dog for a walk. Not something you can choose not to do.>
Its tank that has a plastic divider so you can have two fish.
<Bettas will go berserk if they can see each other. DO NOT add a second
Betta!!!>
But i took that out as sebie is on his own. Its a three litre tank,
but thinking of getting something of a 5 litre and also a real life plant, he
has plastic in his tank currently.
<Three litres or five litres... both worthless; at least 15, 20 litres please
for Bettas.>
I've found a good aquarium that knows about Bettas.
<Possibly. But if they told you it is happy in three litres of water without a
heater -- they are misleading you. Yes, breeders keep them in jars. But in VERY
HOT rooms where they keep water temperature around 28 C/82 F, and they also
change ALL the water in the jars every day. This simply isn't practical for a
home hobbyist. Hence, the kind, humane way to keep Bettas -- in a filtered,
heated aquarium around 4-5 gallons/15-20 litres in size.>
So sebie is happy and that makes me happy.
<Good. But please, PLEASE understand this animal is a fish, not a Pokémon. It
doesn't have a psychic link with you and it certainly doesn't want to be loved.
What it wants is warm, clean water and a mix of foods. The same as
any animal really. Care for them right, and the reward is seeing your pet animal
thrive over a long lifespan.>
The white bubble thingy has disappeared, so god only knows what it was about but
it made me realise his not just any fish....we have formed a bond sebie and i so
i needed to do my research and get expert advice.
<Expert advice right here. Your choice whether to ignore it. Choose wisely, my
young friend.>
Thank you for your assistance, much appreciated. Kind regards,
Julie
<And likewise, Neale.>
RE: Sick Betta 4/3/16
Thank you Neale. B
<<Most welcome, Bob; though I fear this Betta will be receiving more "love" than
"care". Cheers, Neale.>>
I do sense the same.... oh for learning, experiences that aid people in
discerning sense/emotion from rationality/thought. B
re: Sick Betta 4/3/16
Wow Neale,
I can c your a really polite person. NOT!!
<Oh boy, it's going to be one of those messages I see...>
Thank you for your so called expert advice. If this is how you treat all your
clients with such a lack of compassion then i am not recommending you to any of
my friends.
<You weren't a client. I'm a volunteer, and I gave you precise and accurate
advice for no cost. Let me state that again. I do not get paid, and you did not
pay me anything. So you aren't a client. We deal with hundreds of
queries a week, and spend hours going through them, helping people. Mostly we're
able to help people to save their pet animals. But sometimes people don't want
to be helped. They don't want to spend the money necessary, or
don't want to change their habits. Not much we can do about that. But we
certainly will state clearly that such people are putting the lives of their
animals at risk. The reason I'm here, volunteering, is for the sake of the pet
animals. End of story.>
Your lucky I'm an adult n not a child, i would b in tears by now n telling my
parents that you said my fish will die.
<We all die. The question is when and why. In the case of a Betta, a healthy
specimen should live 2-3 years in captivity, sometimes a little longer. But to
do that they need space, heat, filtration and a varied diet.
Not love, not empathy, and not a cutesy name.>
If i was you get some people skills because obviously you spend to much time
with something/someone that's so detached from compassion n mercy its rubbed
upon to you.
<Actually, I have very good people skills. The fact I've got you all riled up
demonstrates this. I managed to get you agitated and worked up. That was my
intention, to knock you out of your complacency and make you question
yourself. What you do next is up to you. You can get angry at me, the messenger.
Or you can deal with the message, that Bettas need certain things to thrive.
Your move.>
My fish is perfectly safe n the aquarium you are assisting me are trained in
this field so don't think I'm being another stupid person, I've also done my
research, how do you think i came across your website.
<Problem is I bet 100% of your research is on websites. These can be written by
anyone. Some of those people are good at keeping Bettas. Some are not. I'm
demonstrably an expert. I write for fish magazines and commercial websites, and
if you Google my name (Neale Monks) you'll see me all over the place. Pick up a
copy of Practical Fishkeeping magazine and you'll see my happy little facing
smiling at you from the fish health section. I'm not saying this as an ego
thing. Don't need to impress you to make myself feel good. But I'm saying it to
point our I *do* know what I'm talking about and I'm *not* trying to get you to
spend money for no reason.
Compare and contrast your pet shop staff, who have a financial incentive to sell
you stuff, including a new fish weeks or months own the line. If you can't
critically evaluate the difference in motives, then that's too bad.
But doesn't make me a bad person.>
Plus i don't live in a house, n trust me my room that i rent is hotter than room
temp.
<Your house is 28C/82F! That's very, VERY hot. I'd melt! And no, I don't trust
you without some supporting evidence, like a temperature reading. I'm speaking
for the animal here, who depends entirely on you. They can't go
shopping for a heater or a filter or whatever. Some folks are able to ignore
animal suffering. Some folks prefer to be ignorant about the needs of animals. I
can do neither.>
Also You totally missed the part whereby i said i would get him a bigger tank,
but unlike you who gets $1000 a week as a pay chq, I'm on the pension.
<I understand. But I did read the bit about upgrading from 3 to 5 litres, and I
commented that doing this is not going to magically improve things.
As one fishkeeper has put it, 5 litres isn't an aquarium, it's a vase -- put
flowers in it, not a fish.>
Man i pity you, because from your response to my last email, you clearly have
some serious issues with people.
<So serious I volunteer my time helping people and animals? Yeah, that's a
terrible psychological burden.>
Furthermore this is not my first time owning a Betta, its been years since my
first one n yes i admit i was uneducated back then n so he died, though i did
live in cairns at the time which is the most tropical city in Australia, so it
wasn't a lack of heat that killed him.
<For sure a tropical city should be fine, provided his aquarium is in ambient
tropical heat and not a room with air conditioning.>
Instead of giving advice to people about their pets you might wanna consider
taking lessons in people skills, because clearly you come across as a unkind,
incompassionate and total people hater.
<I'm sorry you feel that way. Actually, no, I don't. There's none so blind as
those who don't want to see... You clearly want me to tell you your
Betta is going to be fine in an unheated, unfiltered jar of water. I'm not going
to do that. And nor does your Betta. But I've done all I can do to help
you from my remote island in the other hemisphere. The rest is up to you and
your conscience.>
I will not be recommending you to my friends or to anyone. Thank you so much for
your wonderful advice, i will c to it that the aquarium who is now looking after
my sebie will c what you have written. I'm sure they will be tickled pink to
know you think some higherly of them!!!!
<Tickled indeed.>
Good bye and i hope you get better peolpe [sic] skills soon before you make some
little boy or girl cry.
Jules Screen
<Well this has been fun. We should do it again some time soon. Cheers,
Neale.>
re: Sick Betta 4/4/16
Dear mr monk,
Thank you for your advice and I'll do my best to take all you have suggested
under consideration.
I wish you all the best in your work, life and family.
Kind regards,
Julie
<Glad to help, and best of luck with the Betta. Cheers, Neale.>
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Betta; dis. diag. 3/14/16
Hi
<Yvonne>
I have had my Betta since just after May last year. I came home this afternoon
to see what looks like a greenish/ greyish under his chin.
<Mmm; likely not pathogenic in nature then... unless you've been feeding live
freshwater food/s, added live plants, other livestock...>
He seems to be swimming ok and eating fine, but I have also noticed he seems to
be handing more than normal, he is in a tank with angelfish who seem to keep
themselves to themselves.
His tail also looks like it has shredded.
<Mmm; the Angels>
It colouring under his chin I have only notice today.
Last week we cleaned his big tank out and put him in a tank on his own which in
he seemed to be a bit sad and seemed lonely so we put him back in the tank with
his angelfish friends.
Please can you advise what could be wrong with him, could he be sick or just
getting old.
<Possibly either; or both>
If sick could you also please advise what treatment I could use.
<In case this is an infectious agent at work, let's have you read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/BetDisInfeF.htm
Bob Fenner>
Thank you very much in advance for you help in making my boy better
From Yvonne
Betta; health; Neale's turn 3/15/16
Hi
<Hello Yvonne,>
I have had my Betta since just after May last year. I came home this afternoon
to see what looks like a greenish/ greyish under his chin. He seems to be
swimming ok and eating fine, but I have also noticed he seems to be handing more
than normal, he is in a tank with angelfish who seem to keep themselves to
themselves.
<Sometimes do. But as usual, the standard caveat: Bettas don't mix well with
other fish, not because of aggression, but because they're ill-suited to
community tanks.>
His tail also looks like it has shredded.
<Could be physical damage from the Angels (which can/do peck at fins, despite
being long-finned themselves, the hypocrites!) or from an over powerful filter,
or simple stress of some sort.>
It colouring under his chin I have only notice today. Last week we cleaned his
big tank out and put him in a tank on his own which in he seemed to be a bit sad
and seemed lonely so we put him back in the tank with his angelfish friends.
Please can you advise what could be wrong with him, could he be sick or just
getting old.
<Depends on his age. Assuming you got your Betta "from new" he was something
like six months old when you bought him, and you've had him another ten months.
So let's say he's a little under a year and a half in
age. That's not old-old by Betta standards, but certainly well into middle age.
They can live 3-4 years in captivity, though in the wild they're more like
annuals than anything else. A lot depends on his mood. If he's
swimming normally and feeding happily, I'd treat as per Finrot, review his
living conditions and tankmates, and see what happens.>
If sick could you also please advise what treatment I could use.
<Do avoid the cure-alls (some would say cure-nothings) like Melafix and instead
use a decent antibiotic or antibacterial that doesn't rely on tea tree oil or
some other nonsense like that. Here in the UK, I'd be using
eSHa 2000, but in your part of the world other options may be available. As
always, remember to remove carbon during usage.>
Thank you very much in advance for you help in making my boy better
From Yvonne
<Cheers, Neale.>
Betta Illness 2/27/16
Dear Crew,
I need your help as my Betta has white "stuff" on him and a grayish patch over
his nose that was never white. This pic shows the grayish patch over his nose
and the white "stuff" on his pectoral fin, which is also in other places on his
body but not many at all (weird). I am at a complete loss at how to treat Tiki
next.
<Could be extra mucous caused by irritation/stress, could be dead skin, could be
a bacterial infection. Hard to say from the photo. Luckily, treatment more or
less the same for each.>
Long story short, he got live plants for Christmas that ended up having 2 small
slugs that disappeared.
<Slugs?>
The plants did not flourish like his brother's Neptune and the death of an
Africa Dwarf frog, Athena, led me to Tiki's plight. I thought it was a fungus
but it probably is not.
<Fungus is usually very distinctive. Think cotton wool fibres.>
I went the natural treatment method in his 2.5 gallon tank of just water.
<This is, in my opinion, too small. I know about Bettas being kept in jars by
breeders, but that's not really practical for aquarists. How do you filter and
heat the water? If you don't have a filter then water quality won't be good
enough without daily 100% water changes (which is what breeders do) and without
a heater the Betta will become too cold and become sick (breeders keep their
jars in heated rooms maintained at 28 C/ 82 F rather than room temperature).>
I threw out the live plants, substrate and seashells.
<What sort of plants were you using? What sort of lighting did you provide?>
We are on Day 8 of 100% water changes daily with 2 tsp of aquarium salt and
almost 1 tsp of Epsom salt and 1.5 mL of API StressCoat Plus.
<None of these will treat the above list of possibilities. To recap: salt is
cheap but treats only a very limited range of parasites; Epsom salt is also
cheap but basically works against bloating and constipation only; and StressCoat
is used during transportation of fish to minimise some types of stress (hence
the name) but otherwise has no particular value to aquarists.>
He is active and eating like a pig, but he is also a very strong spirit too.
There is so much "controversial" research I have no idea what to do next as our
10 days are up soon.
<Here's the thing. The controversies exist mostly on forums and conflicts
between some web pages, basically arguments between people who've kept a couple
of Bettas and now think themselves experts. Pick up an aquarium fish health book
though and you'll see the basic ideas about how to maintain tropical fish are
very well understood. Have been for decades, with one or two outstanding areas
of uncertainty. Bettas crystallize these problems
beautifully. Pretty much every aquarium book written will tell you to keep them
like any tropical fish of similar size. But a few Betta people online insist
they can be kept in some magical way counter to the laws of physics!
Unheated tanks with little water, no filtration, minimal variety of food. I
don't know how this applies to your situation because you haven't said anything
about heating and filtering, but I'm putting all this food for thought out
there. While 2.5 gallons might work with a bit of effort, you will need
filtration and heating, and for plants, some type of overhead
lighting (though be warned, Bettas jump out of open-topped tanks, and
furthermore, without humid air trapped under the cover or hood, cold air can
cause health problems to these air-breathing fish adapted to humid, warm air.>
It maybe Ich but he wasn't scratching up against anything. He has been plighted
by this for 1 month before I caught it with Athena's ill-health.
Plus the grey patch on his nose makes me think it is not Ich but a bacterial
infection. Will you identify what is wrong with him? If you don't mind can you
clarify a myth from reality on aquarium salt. I know Bettas are freshwater fish
but since I have used it with Tikster I think it maybe a good idea to
incorporate it into every water change for Tiki and Neptune. How much aquarium
salt would you add to weekly water changes for Bettas in a 2.5 gallon tank? Or
would you not recommend doing that?
<See above; I'd be treating as per Finrot, using some trustworthy medication
(not Melafix, Bettafix, etc.) but more like the old Maracyn 1 + 2 combination,
or Maracyn Plus, or Kanaplex, or in the UK, I'd recommend eSHa 2000 as
economical and effective.>
Thank you for your time. I stumbled on your website in my research and ended up
reading the compassionate post on posting the right picture size.
So, for sure I thank you for any and all Betta care information you can give me
as I appreciate you do this because you are passionate about it. I believe you
when you say you are experts.
<Perhaps better to say: we have a lot (many decades) of experience of keeping
fish, and that includes having made LOTS of mistakes, which we try to help
others avoid.>
My next step is to bring Tikster to my Vet but it is winter here and I don't
want to put him through that stress.
<If he's eating, a trip to the vet is probably not necessary. He's still in good
shape. Medicate as per Finrot and he should recover, assuming the rest of his
environment is good (warm, zero ammonia and nitrite, pH and hardness
within the range needed for Betta splendens).>
Another solution is Bettafix that an uninformed PetSmart employee recommended
but anything from a company scares the shit out of me because I have a Betta and
do not want to harm him. There are not that many places
to turn to help my Tiki-baby or if Neptune-baby needs a professional.
<You're wise to be cautious. Some PetSmart employees are genuine fishkeepers and
have their own experience to draw upon. But most are minimum wage sales clerks
that will have received a trivial amount of animal health training beyond basic
shop floor display tank maintenance. If you've got $6 to spend, you could do a
lot worse than download Bob F's "Success with Bettas" book that summarises
everything you need to know about the species in a Kindle/eBook-friendly
format...
http://www.amazon.com/Betta-Success-Robert-Fenner-ebook/dp/B00HFAACII/ref=sr_1_5?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1456572335&sr=1-5
Otherwise, there are all sorts of aquarium healthcare books on Amazon, and even
secondhand copies of things like "Interpet Manual of Fish Health" are well worth
the couple of bucks they'll set you back.>
Thanks again,
Maygan
<Hope this helps, Neale.>
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Betta Bloated, Epsom Salt Not Working HELP
2/18/16
Crew!
<Cor>
You continue to be the best resource for me over the years regarding everything
fish! I searched the archives on Betta Swim Bladder and Constipation and read
and read but cannot find anything that says what to do after Epsom Salt
baths....
Background:
I rescued a Betta from a local Pet Co. about 4 months ago. "Charlie" is
housed in a 2gallon tank at work with a heater and filtration and has
been a happy boy, making weekly bubble nests, active, and eating like a pig!
Went on vacation and came home to a bloated Betta (looked to me like swim
bladder due to constipation?)
<Mmm; no....>
Parameters of water at that time were bizarre (PH was in low 6 range, there was
Ammonia and Nitrates were high).
<.... toxic>
I did a 50% water change and fasted him 4 days and tried a blanched frozen pea.
He did not bite.
I took Charlie home to watch him. Put him in a gallon bowl with a heater and
fasted him again and tried pea, and no bite.
Began Epsom Salt baths once a day 1 TBS in gallon of water for 15-20 minutes and
no relief.
Fed him a blood worm - nothing.
Have fasted him again 3 days but this little guy will not "go". He is as happy
as can be, swimming properly just BLOATED.
<Try either live or frozen/defrosted Daphnia or Artemia (Brine Shrimp). Good
laxatives>
Water is 0 nitrates, PH 7.4, 0 Nitrites 0 Ammonia and the temp is 78. I am doing
water changes every other day because this bowl is tiny (1 gallon).
Attached are two photos I took today.
HELP!
Cori Durkee
<Really; just time going by at this point. This fish has been "challenged" by
poor water quality... a few weeks going by should see it improving. Bob Fenner>
Fwd: Betta Bloated, Epsom Salt Not Working HELP
2/18/16
Photos were duplicate, my apologies. Attached are correct photos
<Same resp. BobF>
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Monty the Betta 2/1/16
This is Monty. He's a 3 year old veil tail that I bought as a baby. He is in a
community 29 gallon. I know there's people who strongly advocate against
community Bettas, but Monty was introduced as soon as I brought him home to
other fish. His tank mates are 2 Otos, some ghost shrimp, cherry shrimp, 4
cherry barbs, and 12 guppies.
The tank temperature is kept at 80*F with a heater, there's a Rena FilStar
canister rated for 75 gallons.
The tank is pretty well planted with 1 piece of driftwood. So onto the problem.
About 2 months ago, I noticed what LOOKED like a lumpy area on his side.
<I see this on your too large images>
I couldn't tell if my eyes were playing tricks on me. After it started getting
bigger, I realized it wasn't just a phantom lump. It got about the size of an
eraser on the end of a pencil and stayed like that for a long time.
I posted an image on a forum hoping they could help identify this thing. I was
told it was a tumor.
<May be>
This afternoon when I got home from work, I noticed the lump had gotten bigger.
It looks like a fluid filled abscess, to be honest. I've seen tumors and
abscesses in other animals and Monty's problem presents like the latter to me. I
can also see light that kind of shines through the stretched skin.
But I'm not a fish doctor, so I can't diagnose. But what is it really? And
should I lance it like I've been wanting too or leave it alone?
<Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/BetDisViralF.htm
Bob Fenner>
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PLEASE HELP; Betta env. dis. 1/20/16
What's wrong with my beta fish ? He struggles to swim to the top of the
bowl
<There. Right there is the problem. Bettas can't be kept in bowls; get
a 4-5-gallon aquarium, a heater, and a very gentle filter (an air-powered
sponge, for example) and he'll perk right up with any luck.>
it's like he's straining to get to the top, his colors have faded from blue to
gray, his tail has diminished, it's a lot shorter than it used to be and he is
having a hard time swimming he just lays in the bottom of his bowl as if to be
sleeping, and he is straining to breathe and he isn't eating.
<The thing is that Bettas are tropical fish. But unless you happen to live in
Thailand where they come from, your climate is all wrong. Some people get
tricked into thinking they can survive at room temperature. I say "tricked" but
it's a trick that plays on lack of reading, because EVERY aquarium book states
they need to be kept between 24-28 C/75-82 F. Anyway,
we get A LOT of messages just like yours, so don't feel too bad. You're not the
first person to keep a Betta in a bowl, and sadly for this species, unlikely to
be the last. But in any event, you know what's wrong, so it's an easy fix.>
Before
Now
Sent from my iPhone
<Ironically, the cost of the right set up for a Betta is probably about a
month's worth of cell phone service, or less than one-sixth what a new iPhone
would cost! So luckily for you and your fish, buying the right equipment
shouldn't be too cost prohibitive! Hope this helps, Neale.>
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Re: PLEASE HELP 1/20/16
So would this be good for him ?
<So long as there's at least, shall we say, 3 US gallons of water in there, and
ideally a little bit more, then yes, that's a good starting point. You will
still need a heater of some sort (but a very small one for 3-5 gallons, 25 Watt
probably ample unless the room is very cold) and a small filter of some type
(I'd recommend a simple air powered sponge or box filter filled with filter wool
as cheap and gentle enough not to upset him). Cheers, Neale.>
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