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Re: Fish Bump? Betta dis. f' 2/2/08 Hello- I contacted you a couple weeks ago about my Betta fish having a weird bump on its side, and I've been feeding it brine shrimp flakes and trying to switch its diet up, but it is still there, and I think it may even be getting bigger...might it be a tumor? Thanks, -Elizabeth <Could be. I'm not sure "brine shrimp flakes" are really all that laxative though. The idea of a laxative food is that it isn't processed, so that the bulk is there to give the intestines something to push. If you process something into a flake, I can't see how that's a good thing in this situation. It's live brine shrimp, and even better, live daphnia, you want. Moreover, if your fish enthusiastically chases these live foods, that's a very positive sign. But if it just sits there looking glum, that's not so good. In any case, how old is this Betta? While they can live for several years, wild fish are basically annuals, and anything over a year in a home aquarium is doing well given that male Bettas are something like 3-6 months old by the time you buy them (any younger and they don't have their full fins yet). Bettas are also pretty inbred and mass-produced, so when you buy one, you're not really getting much of a long-term investment. Worse still, conditions in the standard issue Betta jar are pretty poor, and the fish get little exercise and nothing like optimal water quality. Cheers, Neale.> Betta, Possible Fungal Infection - 02/08/2007 I looked around the site, and I admit that I may have not looked hard enough or that I may not know the correct terminology, however, I couldn't find a solution to my problem. <Jorie here - I'll try to help!> My Betta, Kappa, has been with me for a little under a year. He began his life with me in a gallon sized tank, and over the summer got to move into a larger two-and-a-half gallon tank. The gallon sized tank had an undergravel filter, while the new tank has a larger whisper filter. <An excellent upgrade - I'm sure Kappa is very happy in his new, more-spacious quarters!> Onto my fish. Kappa has been doing very well lately. I change his water at least once weekly - usually twice - and his tail and fins were growing back after a bout with tail/fin rot (due to me not being around for a week and a half and leaving his care up to my roommates). <Yep - tail/fin rot is almost always caused by poor water quality. Sounds like you are on top of that, though, and you are keeping his "home" very clean...> His tank water is conditioned with API Stress Coat, as well as a small amount of Doc Wellfish's Aquarium Salt. <Sounds good.> Yesterday and today, Kappa has been looking less than ideal. He barely moves, preferring to stay at the bottom of the tank, and when he *does* move he swims to the top of the tank and then returns back down. He swims sideways. He looks as though he is having trouble breathing, taking in great big breaths of water. <Would you describe this behavior as "yawning"? If so, when was the last time you changed the water? Or, alternatively, I'm wondering if something toxic could have found its way into the tank. What you are describing can often be caused by pollutants in the water...first thing I'd suggest is changing the water, and changing the filter media.> I haven't seen him eat. His colour has darkened and dulled, and it looks like he has a white coating on and around his tail. <I've looked at your attached pictures, and I don't see any obvious signs of fungus, but that's what you are verbally describing here. With regard to not eating, Bettas can go up to a week without food; clearly, though, your fish isn't feeling well at the moment...> There has been no change in his tank aside from the day long stay of an angelfish, who is showing no signs of disease. We moved Sakura into her own tank after Kappa attacked her. <Good idea. A 2.5 gal. tank is far too small for an angelfish, even by herself...> I have just cleaned Kappa's tank (a 50% water change and a new filter without carbon in it) and I have added API Melafix to his water. The temperature is at 80F and has been staying at that level. <These are all the things I would have suggested...> Is there anything else I can do or is my poor Kappa headed on his way out? <Even though I can't see it, these are all signs of a fungal infection. Since the water condition seems good, I'd suggest treating your Betta with something like Jungle Fungus Eliminator, as per the instructions. With regard to Kappa not eating, what do you usually feed him? If you haven't already tried, frozen, then thawed bloodworms and Mysis shrimp are a favorite of my Bettas. If the days keep crawling on and Kappa still doesn't eat, you may have to resort to live black worms or bloodworms, but I'd save that for a last resort...> Thanks a million. 'Chelle <Hope I've helped. Sounds like you are taking very good care of Kappa, and with your attention to details, we've hopefully isolated the problem soon enough so that it can be fairly easily rectified. Best of luck, Jorie> PS - the pictures I have attached are of Kappa - the first one is him before all of this, and the following ones are what he looks like now. Betta Acting Lethargic 7/2/07 Dear WWM Crew, I have a Crowntail Splendid Betta; named Bartholomew, who I have for 1 1/2 years now. I keep him in a 5 gallon tank with a filter, heater set at 73 degrees, <This is a little cold for a Betta. The water should be kept at about 80-82F> and an air pump. I premix my water one day before I do my 20% water change, which is every week. The pre-mixture consists of stress coat and ½ teaspoon of aquarium salt. After changing the water and cleaning his tank by light vacuuming; I check the temperature, pH, ammonia, nitrites and nitrates. They are now reading: temperature -- 80, pH -- 72, ammonia -- 0, nitrite -- 0 and nitrate -- 10. Sometimes I have to add pH down, which consists of a total of six -- ten drops during the course of two days. <So, the temp is 80F, but the heater is set at 73F? Is the temperature usually constant or does it drop to 73F very often? If it's dropping, I'd try to make sure the temp stays more constant at 80 to 82F.> Everyday I feed him live black worms, dried blood worms and once a week presoaked pellets and occasional brine shrimp. Bartholomew was a very active Betta, swimming and flaring at everything -- the filter, the heater and even his owners. Also, he would get excited by your presence and most of all getting his food. Although, Bartholomew is still swimming around and eating a well-balanced diet; <These are good signs. You do spoil the little guy quite well. :-)> I have noticed a change in the little guy's personality; he seems to be lying at the bottom of the tank most of the time and acting very lethargic. His colors are still vibrant; fins are free of any tears, no signs of any parasites, bacterial or fungal infection. I do notice a few little white dots; but they are not raised. Could it still be Ick? <Doubt it... but if he starts getting the spots on his fins, then I'd be more concerned.> To be on the safe side I started treating him with Melafix and Pimafix. I spoke to Aquarium Adventure, a fish store and they stated that he is just getting old. Could this be true? <Unfortunately, yes. Sadly, Bettas only live 2 to 3 years and they're already several months old by the time they're sold.> Can he be acting this way so quickly -- just lying at the bottom of the tank; being lethargic? Is there a possibility that he has contracted a parasite or some type of infection that could be making him act this way without visual signs? Also, could I have possibly fed him bad food? <All possibilities, but I doubt it. In all likelihood, he's just getting old.> Do you recommend that I give him a Methylene Blue dip bath? <I wouldn't. It might just stress him out. For more info on Betta problems: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/betdisfaqs.htm> Please give advice? Thanks in advance for your help; I think your staff is great. Jean <Thank you. Happy to help. :-) Sara M.> Brown lump on pectoral fin.
Betta hlth. Hello, <<Greetings. Tom here.>> Ill get
right to the point. <<Okay.>> Twosocks has a brown lump on
his pectoral fin. <<And, Twosocks is what species of
fish?>> He closes it up and continues to clamp it closed. I have
no clue what it is. I have tried to take a photo of it but he won't
let me. So any suggestions on what it could be? <<Well, if you
look back at your e-mail to us, you will probably realize that you
haven't given us (me) a lot to go on'¦including your name,
which I'm a little particular about. Slow down on the next
go-around and give us some 'particulars'. The more information,
the better.>> Because it is affecting how he swims. <<Wild
guess? Your fish has a tumor, or cyst, growing on his fin or near his
body close to the fin.>> He will only use both pectoral fins to
jut about but when it comes to going to the surface for air it's
all about closing one fin in and clamping it shut. <<Are we
talking about a Betta? Not the only fish that goes to the surface for
air, of course, but the first that comes to mind. If what I think your
fish has is correct, there isn't much you can do. This isn't a
'death sentence' but, a growth like you've described
isn't likely to clear up on its own. Best case? The growth is
'self-limiting' meaning that it's not going to get any
larger. Your fish may 'learn' to live with it and see a fairly
full life. Worst case? I'd look for a merciful end to your
pet's life. Personally, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you
for the former.>> Other than that, nothing else seems and looks
wrong with him. <<This isn't an uncommon problem with fish.
Obviously, it's not a problem we care to see, or hear about, since
there isn't much that can be done. Again, some finger-crossing is
in order. My best. Tom>> Betta problems 6/16/07 Hello, <<Hi, Linda. Tom with you.>> I'm Linda from SE Georgia, USA. <<SE Michigan, myself, Linda. Same USA, of course. :) >> I have a male Betta approximately 2 1/2 years old. I keep him in a small 2 gal tank which is unfiltered. Since we are rather warm here, I only heat the tank during the winter so summer temp is generally between 78 and 80 degrees. He had been acting fine until about a couple of days ago. He normally eats Betta Bits but a couple of days ago I gave him some live mosquito larvae (which he usually loves, loves, loves with no problems). But, since then he has begun lying on the bottom and seems only to come up a few times for air. His color is looking slightly changed. He tries to come to top when I am at the tank but it's with great difficulty. I usually make water changes about every other week. I really don't want to lose my little guy, what should I do? Thanks in advance for your help. <<Linda, two-and-a-half is, typically, a ripe, old age for Bettas. Farm breeding is largely responsible for this, unfortunately. What you might try doing is increasing the frequency of the water changes to every four-five days. You should also keep the level of the water a little lower in the tank so that it's easier for him to reach the surface. I can't tell you this will make all the difference but it might make things a bit more comfortable for him. What you've described indicates, sadly, that he doesn't have a lot of time left, though. For whatever it's worth, you've done a good job to keep him healthy this long.>> Linda <<Tom>> Question - Betta is discolored, looks dusty, what's wrong? 6/13/07 Hi, <Hello there> I've had a male Betta for 3-4 months now and just noticed a problem. He is severely discolored and has gone from blue and red to almost brownish. <Yikes! Bad> It looks like there is a coating of brown dust on him. <May be Velvet... or just poor environment...> I thought it might be velvet, but it doesn't look like individual spots <These are very fine...> and they aren't shiny or sparkly. It's just all over. He's also been staying in the top corner of his tank, not moving much except when there's food. He is by himself in a 2.5 gallon tank and I do 50% water changes once a week with tap water that has water conditioner added and has sat out in a jug near the tank for at least a day <Do set this aside a week in advance... much better> to make sure it's the same temperature. <... I take it from this statement that you don't presently employ a thermostatic heater? This is likely a principal cause of your induced trouble here if so> I'm honestly not sure how long he has looked like this, as the tank isn't lighted and I only noticed when I was right up against the glass and looked more closely with a flashlight. I feel horrible that this has happened to him. I went to PetSmart after trying to research to see what it was, and the girl there had no idea. She told me to try BettaFix, <Mmmm> so I put in just under 1tsp of that yesterday, then did a half water change today and added the amount required for the water I put in. I haven't seen any changes in him, and I'm not sure if this will help at all. Do you think it could be velvet or another parasite, and if so, what should I do? Would adding aquarium salt help (I never have before)? <Maybe... depending on...> Thanks so much. Christi <Mmm, need more information re water quality... I strongly encourage your reading here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm and the linked files above. Bob Fenner> Betta fish query #9,472,631 6/10/07 Hello, <Hi Melissa - Jorie here.> I recently got a Betta fish 5 days ago. <Welcome to the wonderful world of Bettas! Of all my freshwater fish, the Betta ranks among my favorites, as it is beautiful and full of personality. I hope you are keeping your new pet in at least a 3 gallon heated and filtered tank; Bettas like stable 80-82 degree F water, and the tiny little jars the pet stores sell truly aren't suitable for ghost shrimp, let fish...> It is a crown tail Betta fish. <Sounds nice. I've got one of these myself.> I am not too sure if it is a boy or a girl. On the little cup thing it came in it said male. <Generally, the Bettas with the long-flowing, magnificent fins are boys; the girls have short, stubby little fins. Also, does your Betta "flare" when you put a finger up to his tank (or a mirror)? If so, that's definitely a male Betta. Here are some great websites for Betta-lovers: http://www.ibcbettas.com/ http://www.bettacave.com/ http://www.bcbetta.com/ > About 4 days later the fish developed a huge stomach. <Generally one of three things: internal bacterial infection, constipation (caused by overfeeding), or a tumor.> If you look very closely at it, it has small red circle thing inside it. <I am have having trouble envisioning this. Does it look like a pimple? Are there red streaks under the Betta's skin? Can you perhaps snap a picture and send it along?> I am not sure what it is. My sister who takes care of the fish says it is pregnant but it has no mate and we don't know if it is even a girl. <Considering I'm almost positive this fish is male, I don't think it's pregnant. I hate to say it, but it doesn't sound like your sister is overly knowledgeable on fishkeeping; again, I question the environmental conditions this fish is kept in? So many "illnesses" and "diseases" are caused by poor water quality, and are easily remedied by improving the water conditions. Do read here for a good article on keeping a Betta happy and healthy: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm > How can you tell if it is a male or female and how can you tell if it is pregnant? <Do a Google image search for "male Betta", and another for "female Betta"; you'll be able to see exactly what I was describing above, about the difference in finnage. Also, there are some quality, inexpensive Betta books available; I do suggest you pick up a copy of one or more and read about your new pet: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/002-3536912-4086423?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Betta > Sincerely Melissa <Do keep asking questions and reading; you'll soon be able to take over the care of this fish and educate your sister! Best regards, Jorie> I have a question bout my Betta fish 6/4/07 > Hello, I am a first time fish owner ever and I bought the beta fish "Neo" (since he was new to the family) about 3 months. I have him alone in a 10 gallon tank, with a filter, which doesn't not makes waves, but there is a slight current. <All sounds perfect.> > I got him to be friendly and he would greet me every morning for his feedings and when I would go up the glass he would come to see me. I do talk to him. <Nothing wrong with talking to your fish! Quite the reverse. Anything you do consistently around them, including making (not too loud) noises helps acclimate them to captive life. Anyway, it sounds as if your fish was responding positively to you, which is great.> > Well I have had a busy couple of days and when I cam home today I noticed he was acting very lazy just hanging round the surface a lot. > Plus he is very bloated and I even think he has tail/fin rot as I can see dark almost brown/black color on his tail and lower fin. It is just on the very ends of the fins. <Good call, sounds like Finrot. Treat early is the solution here; advanced Finrot becomes septicaemia, and is basically untreatable.> > I know I have to get some medicine for him, but since he was bloated I added some Epsom salt to his tank. <Epsom salt is a specific treatment for swelling caused by constipation. It doesn't really fix much else, and almost certainly won't help here.> > The heater on his tank is set round 80 degrees Fahrenheit. Is there anything I can do for him or is he a goner, I haven't gotten any meds yet since it is Sunday and the stores are all closed. Like I said before I added Epsom salt to his tank in hopes it will help the bloating. <Really, your hopes lie with actual Finrot remedy, of which there are many. Optimising water quality is also important, so check things like nitrites and pH.> > If he dies my 5 yr old son will be devastated. Can you help me? <One thing worth bearing in mind is fancy Bettas do not live long. They are basically annual fish. Supposedly, some get to 3 years or more, but that's pretty uncommon. By the time they are sent to the retailer, they are at least six months old. So at worst, you get a mere six months or so of life out of many of them. If you're looking for a pet for a child to form an attachment with, a Betta wouldn't be my recommendation. On the other hand, keeping fish is a great introduction to the pleasures and responsibilities of looking after animals, and I'm sure your son benefits from everything he's learning. Good luck, Neale> Need Help With Betta Eating Habits 6/3/07 I recently purchased the most stunning Crown Tail Betta at my favorite LFS. His new home was a 2.5g cycled and lightly planted tank. *Java moss and a few Crypt plants* the tank has a "Dive Clean Mini" Filter by Tom, which I would recommend to anyone keeping a small Betta tank. It has a low setting to keep the current from being too high. It's a combination sponge and carbon filter. The tank has no heater, but is kept upstairs where the temp is a constant 76 degrees. *plans are to get a heater soon* <All sounds fine. I can't say that I'm personally wild about keeping Bettas is these tiny aquaria, but lots of people do. The problem isn't so much that there's no room for them to explore (though that's true) but the basic, inescapable fact that tiny tanks are less easy to maintain than small sized tanks which are less easy to maintain than bigger tanks.> the first thing I noticed about Mr. Willus, is that he would not eat. I figured he may need some time to adjust. Like any good fish mom I tried many different foods to tempt him to eat. *Flake, Pellet, Freeze Dried Blood Worms, Frozen Blood Worms, Frozen Brine Shrimp* Not only did he not eat ANY of those foods, he didn't even pay attention to them, as if he didn't know that what I had put into the tank was food at all. <Maybe he wasn't hungry?> After almost a week and a half of him not eating, I began to really worry. Not only about his health, but about poor water conditions from the food I was not able to remove from the tank. <OK, there's no excuse for this one. In a 2.5 gallon tank, cleaning out uneaten food is a MUST, and there's no way you can't stay on top of the job. At the very least, a turkey baster type pipette can be used very effectively to siphon out small quantities of muck. In a better situation, you should be doing near 100% water changes every week. As said above, the smaller the tank, the harder you have to work to maintain it. Period. No discussion. Your leeway for water quality problems is practically zero because the volume of water is miniscule; in other words, you have to pre-empt problems by removing wastes before they turn into ammonia.> So I moved him into my currently empty 10g cycled tank and took a trip back to the LFS where I bought him. They informed me that they feed a mixture of mini pellets and live black worms to their Bettas. <Well, all fish like the food they're used to. But the PERFECT diet for Bettas is live mosquito larvae, so that's what I'd be using in this instance.> So in a last ditch effort I purchased a small container of Live Black worms. I also got an antibiotic treatment called simply Betta and treated the tank for good measure. <Why? Antibiotics are medications for treating bacterial infections. Adding things "for good measure" is about as sensible as you taking antibiotics for a headache. Golden rule of medicine is identify the problem first, treat second.> The first time I feed Willus the live black worms it took him about 5 minutes to even notice the first little wiggling worm. But after he saw it, that worm was fish food. He gobbled it up lightning fast. <Very good. Don't overfeed. Fish can go weeks without food, and overfeeding now in your anxiety to compensate won't help and may cause harm (water quality).> With each day I would notice that his interest in feeding time would grow. I got a small worm feeding cone and put it near the top of the tank. This works out great for him. He now gets 4-5 worms in the cone once a day, and I put one or two more in random places in the tank for him to hunt down during the day. He still shows no interest in the worms as they are introduced into the tank, and it takes him a minute or so to go for the cone. <To be fair, Bettas are hopelessly inbred and generally dumb as posts. People have bred them for looks, not brains. Any hunting instincts they had have long since gone. Wild-caught Bettas are so amazingly different to this: the larger species hunt down neon tetras, given the chance!> At least hurtle number one was overcome, shortly after hurtle number two *fish poop* was achieved. Now I'm worried that Mr. Willus isn't getting the proper nutrition. I have tried to get him to eat other foods, but he completely ignores them. He will occasionally eat a pellet if it falls directly in front of his face, but half the time he just spits it back out. <He doesn't like 'em. Move on.> Can you suggest anything I could do to get good nutrients to Mr. Willus? <One random thought: fish food goes off. After about a month of being opened, dried foods have lost much/all their saviour, and fish are less enthusiastic about them. Would you eat breakfast cereal or some other dried food that'd been open for a month? No. So, after that time, it's often best to throw out the food and start with a new tub. I divide out dried food into small packages, and freeze what I'm not using that month. That way it keeps a lot better.> Suggestions on how to get him to eat other food items? <Don't worry too much. The wild fish eat almost entirely mosquito larvae and other types of insect larvae, so live/frozen versions of those are a fine staple diet.> I'm currently getting a 5g tank ready for just him, as I felt the 2.5 was a bit small. <Good plan.> Tank mates will include a Brig snail and possibly a few shrimp, or possibly a few Cory cats. I really want to make the tank a haven for him, any suggestions on things I can do to make it the perfect Betta habitat? <The snail should be fine. The shrimps would be less predictable; some shrimps may peck at the fins. So watch carefully. Corydoras work well with Bettas, but there aren't really any Corydoras for a 5 gallon tank. All Corydoras want to be in schools, ideally at least 5 specimens, and even in a 10 gallon tank that's pushing your luck. When kept in twos and threes Corydoras tend to be hyper-nervous and, frankly, unhappy. So why keep them thus? Instead, I'd perhaps go for something less active. Perhaps a trio of Kuhli loaches? A group of dwarf Corydoras might be an option, such as Corydoras habrosus, but they're not easy to keep and need EXCELLENT water quality. Ultimately though, fancy Bettas are best kept alone. If you want a community tank, then set something up with a 10-20 gallon tank, and if you choose ultra-docile species, maybe add the Betta to that system.> Thanks, Noel <Hope this helps, Neale> Sick Male Betta, no data - 05/26/07
Dear Sir or Madam, <Rebecca> My
male Betta has had a swollen, reddish abdomen for the past couple of
weeks. Only a couple of his scales on his underbelly were raised. Being
a beginner fish owner, I treated him for dropsy the past week with
Maracyn-Two, and am continuing treatment. His swelling may have gone
down slightly. However, tonight I noticed that the couple of raised
scales were gone, and there was a yellowish-brown strand coming from
his underbelly where the raised scales were (just behind the ventral
fins). He has been less active and eating about half as much. Any
advice on what the yellow-brown strand could be, and what to do, would
be appreciated. Thank you for your help in advance.
Sincerely, Rebecca G. <... what re necessary
background info? System, maint., foods/feeding, water tests...? Is this
Betta in a heated, filtered, cycled setting? Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwlvstkind2.htm
The light blue tray... Bob Fenner> Siamese Fighter Fish, hlth.
5/23/07 Hi, <<Hello, Jolene. Tom with
you.>> I'm just a beginner where fish are
concerned'¦more of a dog person. <<I've got a
Labrador Retriever that could change your mind about that. :) >>
Anyway, my Siamese Fighter developed a white spot in the tail area
& this has been spreading over his body. <<Is this one spot
that's spreading over the fish's body or multiple spots like
grains of salt? The second condition is almost surely Ick and we've
enough information on our site to write several books (almost) on
treating this. You can start here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwich.htm.
If the white spot itself is becoming larger, we've got a different
issue altogether. This doesn't seem very likely, though. Loss of
coloration of this kind is typically connected with old age in Bettas
and, since you're a confessed beginner, I don't think your fish
has reached that stage yet.>> He can now barely swim off the tank
floor. I have taken him out of the big tank and am keeping him separate
in a smaller one on his own. <<This is good but do keep an eye on
the other tank. Sounds like you've got other fish in it and Ick is
easily spread.>> How can I treat this? <<Start
with the link I've provided above, Jolene.>>
Thanks, Jolene Singh <<After reading the
article, if you don't think this is the problem with your fish,
please get back to us with as much information as possible. Sounds like
you'll want to take some action quickly here. Best of luck to you
and your Betta. Tom>> Bent Betta 5/19/07 Hi, I'm Tammy and I'm 18. <<Hello, Tammy. Tom here and I haven't been 18 for a long time. :) >> A couple of times I would buy a Betta thinking that I could take care of one but in the end all of them end up dying. I found out later on that I didn't have the proper equipment for a Betta so I did some shopping around and bought everything needed to basically raise a Betta. <<Okay.>> About two months ago, my mom decided that she wanted to buy a couple of piranhas and so we went shopping for some feeder fish for them and to see what we need to prepare for the new arrivals. While at the pet shop, Mom found a Betta that she wanted to buy because he's a very pretty royal blue that matched the rocks that we had set up for the 15 gallon aquarium that we were going to put our new piranhas in. <<Let's do a quick 'time out' before we continue, Tammy. First, juvenile Piranhas don't need 'feeder fish' in their diets. Flake and pellet food will do just fine as will green veggies. Second, a 15-gallon tank is much smaller than these fish require. Upgrading might be part of the plan but it's hardly cost-effective in the long run not to mention that it puts the onus on the fishkeeper to move the animals BEFORE problems set in from living in too small an environment. Remember, too, that these are schooling fish. Doesn't mean that you have to keep a 'school' of them but it does help to diffuse aggression.>> So, we bought him along with some API Stress Zyme and Stress Coat water conditioners and some TetraMin Tropical Flakes. <<Actually, there are foods formulated specifically for Bettas, Tammy. Bettas are primarily insectivores and need a 'meatier' diet than one provided for in tropical flake food.>> I named the Betta Blueboy. When we got home we let Blueboy adjust to the temperature of the 15 gal properly treated aquarium and after two hours we let him out of his bag and for the following month and a half he did just fine. <<Sounds good.>> Sometime three weeks ago (I can't really remember exactly when it was) we added a pretty midnight blue molly with Blueboy and they left each other alone, not fighting or anything. <<Glad to hear this. I would advise, however, that Mollies are brackish water fish that require a salinity level between freshwater and marine conditions. I'll admit that I'm one of the very few who finds a modest amount of aquarium salt helpful in a Betta tank but this won't do it for your Molly as time goes on.>> When we finally got our piranhas, we moved Blueboy along with the molly (named Nightwing) into the 6.3 liter desktop aquarium system that I bought awhile back. <<A 6.3 litre (~1.7 gals U.S.) tank isn't the worst size -- though not optimal -- for Bettas but it's far too small for a Molly. I'd rather have seen you leave them in the 15-gallon tank which would have been far better for both.>> The water was completely treated and circulated for 24 hours when we put them in there. <<No cycling?>> That was about two weeks ago. I left for school Sunday for my college finals and asked Mom if she could take care of Blueboy and Nightwing while I was away. I returned today (Friday) and found Blueboy on the bottom of the desktop aquarium bent in an S shape next to a piece of cocktail shrimp. <<Uh oh.>> Mom accidentally fed Blueboy and Nightwing a piece of shrimp instead of the fish flakes last night and I'm not sure if this is what caused Blueboy to bend like that. I removed the piece of shrimp immediately but when I tried to move Blueboy with the net, he wiggled and flipped and tried to move around but than resumed his S shape curve and floated back to the bottom of the tank, face down. Nightwing is completely fine and as hyper as ever so I don't know if its something that only affects Blueboy or what...I've tried searching around about this but it was just general searching, I don't know what to specify my searching with. <<I would recommend a substantial water change along with the addition of one teaspoon of aquarium salt (Kosher salt will work just as well). You haven't mentioned what the water parameters of this system are but I'm petty confident that they aren't where they should be regarding ammonia, nitrites, nitrates and pH. (These need to be checked in the other tank, also.) The bent spine may take care of itself but Blueboy needs to be able to reach the surface of the tank to breathe. (Bettas will drown unless they can gulp air from the surface.)>> Other than the S shape and not wanting to move anywhere, I don't know what's wrong with Blueboy... He's breathing, tried to move a few times and responds when I try to move him with the net but that's all I know...Does anyone know what might be causing this or if there is anyway to help him? I really don't want him to die. :-s <<Without greater detail to go on, Tammy, it's difficult to say what's caused this problem. The condition you describe can have a variety of causes. It's not uncommon in old Bettas and I've run across anecdotal cases where a sudden shock or scare has caused the same thing. In the latter cases, the problem corrected itself which is what I'd be hoping for here. The main thing, in my opinion, is that you have to get the water quality back up to where it should be.>> Thank you for taking your time and listening to me. I really hope that there is some way to help Blueboy. ~Tammy <<I wholeheartedly recommend that both you and your mom do some in depth research on the fish you have, Tammy. My recommendations for larger quarters for the Piranhas and different quarters for the Molly notwithstanding, I believe you'll agree that there are some serious steps to be taken for the welfare of your pets. I don't mind listening, in the least, but I really prefer to hear good news. I hope you have some for us soon. Best of luck with Blueboy. Tom>>
Betta hlth, Non-native speaker 5/11/07 hello my name is Catherine and I have a fighting fish female that all she has what looks like raised ugly puffed scales all over the body and she didn't have it yesterday she looks sick too I have never seen a fish with this before is it common and will I lose her too she is a good breeder and I love her its an ugly disease what is it all her scales look all raised up like lumps all over they aren't lumps but they look like it all scales are up. Catherine help <Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettadiseases.htm and the linked files above and in-text where you lead yourself. Bob Fenner> Ill Betta, env. 5/9/07 Hi
there- I have a male Betta in a 2 1/2 gallon, filtered tank who seems
to be doing poorly. I got him in December, and quickly
upgraded him from the tiny bowl he came in to this tank. <Is it
heated? I'd purchase/invest in a 25 watt Hydor model...>
He's always had this white coating on his underbelly,
which is starting to spread to his fin. I do a 75% water
change every week, add salt and a bowl buddy fizz tab to dechlorinate
the water and condition it. <These chemicals need to be
dissolved, the water stored ahead of use...> The tank is not heated,
and it usually stays btwn 78-80. <Mmm, doubtful... there
is very likely a much larger swing in temperature here during a given
day... and this may well be a large source of trouble here> I tried
to put live plants in the tank, but everything got coated with brown
algae, so I removed the live plants and replaced them with fabric ones
(but the gunk still remains in the hard to reach parts of the
filter). He lives at my work, and almost every Monday when I
come in, his fins are all shred. <Bingo... likely the temperature
control is shut off during the weekend...> They quickly heal during
the week, but then I see he's torn them again on
Monday. Today he just started floating on the tank on his
side. So my questions are: Is the brown algae in the filter
ok, or is there something that will help me get rid of it? <Better
environment...> Does he have a fungus growing on him, and should I
treat it with anything? <Ditto> Should I not put aquarium salt in
the tank every week? <Correct> What could help prevent the
shredding (or be causing it)? <Environment, nutrition
secondarily...> Why is he floating on his side at the top? Thanks so
much!! Margaret Harley <Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm and
onto the linked files at top. Bob Fenner> Classroom Betta -- 5/4/07 Hi, <<Hi, Rick (Mr. Dutko for the students). Tom with you this afternoon.>> I have read many of the responses on your page, but I'm not quite sure if there is any hope for my Betta, Captain Jack. <<Let's see'¦>> He lives in a 7th grade classroom in a 5-gallon hex tank. Water is heated to 76, and is filtered. I do a partial water change about once a month. <<Two things: 76 F. is too cool. I'd like to see this raised to about 80-82 F. (These guys will do just fine at closer to 90 F.) Second, Bettas need water changes much more frequently than a lot of fish. Truthfully (like I have any reason to lie to you), every four to five days is more the rule for these fish. About one gallon per week (this ain't home, after all) would be far better.>> In the past few days, Capt. Jack has gotten increasingly sluggish. He is sitting on the bottom, or behind/in the treasure chest decoration on the bottom, or, oddly, on the suction cup of the tank heater on the side. He's not eating, and sometimes seems so still I'm worried he's dead already. <<How old is he, Rick? A couple of years, sadly, is about the extent of their lifespans. (I'll get a post now saying that someone had a Betta for 30 years but 'farm breeding' has really diminished the longevity these fish enjoyed in the wild.) That said, I would still look to water conditions. If Capt. Jack is losing coloration (a first sign of aging), something else going on in the tank may be the problem.>> You can understand this is pretty traumatic for the students (and more so for me)... I have had him for almost a year, and he was, up to this point, a pretty perky fish. <<Another idea? 'Aquarium' salt (Kosher salt works well -- pure sodium chloride) in conjunction with the water changes may perk him back up. About a half tablespoon (total solution) in the tank might be worth a try.>> I did a 1-gallon water change on Monday, and took sample of pre and post water in to a local pet store. They only level they were concerned with was that the water is very hard (well) water, and after the water change, the pH was slightly higher. They recommended adding a capful of Mardel Water Conditioner every morning for a few days, then bringing in another sample. <<It's very rare that adding any chemical directly to a tank is a good idea, Rick. It strikes me that there's a cumulative effect at play here. (I'll assume this is the same water that you've been using all along.)>> Capt. Jack still seems like he's giving up the ghost... Any ideas? I've been told to try changing his food, or to add a pump with bubbles, or to change the decoration. What do you recommend? <<Let's take this a little piecemeal. First, Bettas don't need 'air bubbles'. They have a 'labyrinth' gland that allows them to breathe air from the surface. (Bettas can actually survive outside of water provided they can stay 'wet'.) Air bubbles (aside from the aesthetics) agitate the surface to facilitate oxygen exchange (where oxygen for the fish comes from) for fish that need oxygen-rich water. Not so with Bettas, among others of the 'labyrinth' group. Food? Sure, fish need variety. The best, yet boring, diet can cause problems over time. Bettas love live insects like mosquitoes (and larva), etc. That's what they feed on in the wild. Decorations won't do anything for the Captain. Unless they can hide in it, fish don't care. People care but fish don't. Now, there are major, minor and trace elements in water that fish need for their good health. Along with ridding the tank of toxins, water changes replenish these elements. This, Rick, is where I would look. (Check that filter, too. Rinse the media is used aquarium water, not tap water. Tap water will kill the beneficial bacteria.) ;) >> Thanks, Rick & the 7th graders <<I hope this finds you, your students and Capt. Jack well. My best. Tom>>
Bloated Betta + Tattered Tailed Tetra (try saying that three times fast) -- 04/30/07 Hi people, I'm pretty new at fish keeping and was wondering if you guys could help me on some things. I have a male Betta (I've had him for six months now) and I've been feeding him Hikari Betta Bio-Gold and, once in a while, freeze-dried blood worms. Lately I've noticed that he seems kind of bloated? <Yes... very possible... a good idea to mix in some frozen/defrosted food here once a week or so... Brine Shrimp, Daphnia, et al. types have a good deal of laxative effect...> His eyes look a little red (they have been like that before) and the color of his tummy is white-ish, as if his skin was losing color. I don't see scales sticking out, he just looks like he ate waaay too much or is pregnant...which I hope is not possible. He's been this way for probably a week or so. He's still eating his food (three pellets a day, is that too much or too little?) <About right> and attacking the flakes I put in for the tetras that share his tank (they completely ignore him). He seems to be grumpier? He's been chasing some of the tetra, although he never actually does anything. <Good description> Also, one of the tetra has a tail where the bottom half is ripped and pretty much missing, except for a few rays of fin. There are five tetra and they all generally chase each other around, but I didn't think they'd actually do each other harm. The tattered tailed tetra has been staying in the back of the tank recently, but still hangs around with the rest of the tetra a lot. He/she has no discoloration or blood streaking and looks exactly like the rest of the fish but bigger. Fatter, I guess, Because he/she's a little wider all around and slightly longer. The tetra doesn't look bloated like the Betta, though. <The Tetra/s is/are likely fine...> Help! Kat, a new Fish Troll <I would separate the Betta and run it through an Epsom Salt treatment... Please see (search tool, indices) WWM re. Bob Fenner> My bloated Betta Gillby -- 04/30/07 Hi crew, thanks in advance for any advise <advice> you can give. My Betta is in a 10g aquarium, filtered and heated to 80 degrees. I do water changes once or twice a week using stress coat to make the water safe and I always make sure the temp. remains stable. His tankmates are 2 catfish (emeralds I think) & 1 mystery snail. The problem is that recently I noticed that Gillby had a patch of cottony growth on him between his body and his bottom fin <... something amiss here> and when it fell off it left a hole. Now his tummy (directly below his side fins but in front of this new cotton causing hole) is severely bloated and he hangs out inside his bell at the bottom of the tank a lot. His scales do not have the pine cone effect but the tummy bulge is lacking Gillby's beautiful blue coloring. That bulge looks as if it could pop at any second. I also notice that his feces are long and brown, usually dangling from him for long lengths of time. <... what do you feed this fish? What re water quality tests?> The catfish and snail all seem to be acting & looking normal. Gillby periodically swims up for air, chases the catfish away when they enter his domain, and always come up to eat when it's chow time (a combo of flaked & pelleted food). <Needs more than this> His breathing patterns fluctuate between heavy and normal. I treated the tank with Jungle fungus clear but this isn't helping much. I would like to give Epsom salt a try but am concerned about the effects on the other tankmates. <You are wise here> I regret to say that I have not placed him in a hospital tank because I can't find a heater small enough to keep this 1g tank stable at 80 degrees <Look to the Hydor line of products here. Possibly online...> and I figured the fluctuation will harm him more. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.... Vivian <A bit of reading: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwlvstkind2.htm The light blue line below... Re Betta Systems, Foods, Disease... Bob Fenner> Bettas keep dying... uh, no
4/24/07 Greetings, I've been attempting to keep Bettas but so
far having no luck. <?> The first one lasted 1
year, but fins started to shrink/fade after about 6 months, and he
simply become more and more listless then died. The 2nd
lasted only 6 months, and again, his colour and fins began to fade
and shrink after a few months, then listlessness. 3rd
Betta lasted only a few days before getting a cottony coating on
his face. Tank size was always at least 2.5 gallons, with no other
fish. Always some live plants. Temp on
first tank (my longest lasting Betta) was a pretty steady 74
degrees. <Too cool> On the 2nd tank I got a heater &
temp remained a constant 79 degrees. <Better> First tank had
a filter, 2nd tank I removed the filter and used plants to
keep ammonia & nitrite at 0, nitrates about 5 ppm, because I
thought filter may have over-stressed Betta #1. Feeding
was always once or twice daily-- Nutrafin Betta flakes or Hikari
BioGold pellets (few flakes/ 1-2 pellets). <Not completely
nutritious... Need other foods/supplementing> PH is 7.9 or 8.
<Too high... prefer: closer to neutral to acidic> Sometimes I
would see tiny patch of white cotton on tail, even though temp was
high & ammonia/nitrite 0. I attributed this perhaps to
over- feeding, as there were no other issues, so I cut down to once a
day. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong here? <Yes... Please read
here, and follow instructions to do so before writing us: http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwlvstkind2.htm the
second tray down> I'd like to blame it on weak fish breed,
but they always look colourful and healthy when I take them home,
only to see them slowly fade away... Thanks <Poor environment,
nutrition... Bob Fenner> Betta trouble -- 4/10/07 Hello ! <Hello.> First off, I would just like to say that your site has helped me through goldfish keeping for the last year, keep up the good work. I have a 30gal Juwel tank with 3 inch fancy goldfish in it. The aquarium is kept in my bedroom and has a stable but generally high temperature [ around 77/78 or 25/26 ] and the fish seem to be doing really well in it, I cant seem to get the temperature down at all, but it doesn't seem to be a problem. <It may be in summer. Do check the heater: very often heaters are too powerful for the size of the aquarium, so even when "set" to 25C they warm the tank to 28C or whatever. Goldfish really don't like high temperatures in the long term.> About a week ago my mother decided to dig my old BiOrb out to be used as a tropical tank. We purchased 4 tetras and a lively, healthy, Betta splendens. <Not a great combo -- tetras have a reputation for nipping the overlong fins of Bettas.> This combination of fish was recommended by the aquatic centre and deemed suitable for the 30l BiOrb. <Possibly, but depends on the tetras; Neons, Serpaes, black widows would all be poor choices as these have been seen to nip Betta fins. Pencilfish and hatchets might be better.> The problem is that in the week or two that we have had Schism [the Betta] he seems to be being 'sucked' into the rocks by the pull of the filtration system. <Yes, this happens. Wild Bettas have short fins. Fancy Bettas have been bred by humans to be basically incapable of swimming.> To solve this problem we put a peg on the tube to the air pump to soften the current and this seemed to help Schism a lot. But since doing this, the tetras have started to die of, which I think is due to water quality since having compromised the filter *sigh* even though I have been doing more frequent water changes. <Not really a surprise. By reducing the water flow, you reduced the rate at which ammonia was converted into nitrate. While Bettas are air-breathers and to some degree tolerant of pollution, tetras are not, and will suffer if conditions get bad.> I don't want the remaining tetra to die and I don't want the [now raggy looking] Betta to die either. <Well, he's gonna...> It seems that we cant sustain them both and I cant afford to buy another tank for Schism [who I think really needs a different environment because the rocks are really damaging him even since we lowered the pressure] What I need to ask you is if I got a divider for my large goldfish tank to prevent the fish having contact, could I keep Schism safely in there until I can buy him an appropriate living space? The temperature, as I said, is possibly suitable. <In theory, yes, this would work. Rather than a divider, I might even go for a nice transparent breeding trap type device. Bettas seem to do okay even in very enclosed spaces (they've been kept in jars for generations). I personally don't really think much of keeping any fish like this, but in terms of simply keeping a fish alive and healthy, a breeding trap or a tank divider would work.> So sorry for the long winded email, but vie been racking my brain and I really just want to the best for all my fish. <Always a good start to try to do your best. Unfortunately, it is also very easy to mix species that oughtn't be mixed.> Please hurry with an answer! am desperate. Thanks, Lana. xxx <Cheers, Neale> Sam the sick Betta - 4/6/07 Robert, <<Actually, it's Tom with you, Danielle. Greetings.>> Sorry for writing to you at this address but I couldn't figure out how to ask a question on CPR Aquatic Inc. <<Not to worry, Danielle. This will work.>> I've done a lot of reading on the FAQ's also and none deal with my problem. <<Let's see what we can do to change that.>> I have a gorgeous aqua blue/dark blue Betta called Sam. Sam's a champion - just about over a year old now. He's normally very active, very intelligent (his eyes look very intently and curiously at people) and loves people. <<Sounds like a great fish!>> In the last couple of days I noticed that he isn't swimming properly. It appears as though he can't move very well - as if his tail is too heavy for his body. He doesn't seem sick - no fungus growth or anything - but he doesn't swim much. And when he does swim, he wiggles around for a bit and then comes to rest on one of the big leaves I have floating near the surface so he can breathe without having to hold his body up. <<I'll assume that his water conditions are up to par here, Danielle.>> I am in Australia and we are getting into winter. It does get cold at night but generally his water hovers in the 'safe' range on the thermometer or just a tiny bit below. I don't think his 'paralysis' has much to do with the temperature, though - he survived last winter in colder temperatures without drama. <<Still, a heater wouldn't be a bad idea if possible. As Bettas age, their ability to deal with less-than-ideal conditions/temperatures is diminished.>> Any idea what is causing it or what I can do to fix the paralysis problem? <<There are two things that I, personally, recommend for Bettas, Danielle. Warm temperatures -- 80 to 84 degrees F. -- and aquarium salt. I've found my own Betta to be more active with the addition of the salt to his tank and have had feedback from our readers that theirs have 'perked up' as well with the addition of salt, as well.>> Could it simply be age? <<Could be age but I think this can be offset with little effort.>> My last Betta (Bruce) went the paralysis way, too, after about 2 years. Bruce spent most of his time on the gravel and we kept the water low so he didn't have far to get a breath. I really don't want Sam going that way if I can help it. <<Let's give my thoughts a try here, Danielle. The problem with lowering the water level to accommodate Sam's breathing is that less water will mean wider, faster swings in the tank's temperature. Something I feel strongly that we need to avoid. As for the salt dosage, I would raise this fairly slowly. I don't even think the common recommendation of one tablespoon per five gallons of water should be necessary here. One-half to two-thirds of a tablespoon per five gallons should do nicely.>> Thanks in advance Danielle <<Happy to help, Danielle. If there's anything else, you know where to find us now. Cheers. Tom>> Sick Betta fish - 5 year old devastated, please help! 4/6/07 Hello! <Hi there> First let me say you have a most comprehensive and awesome web site, and I tried to look for an answer but as the full time working mother of a 5 and 3 year old I spent over an hour and wasn't able to find anything that "really" closely matched our situation. My daughter is most distraught and I am hoping someone can help us in time! My situation is a bit unusual in the fact that we have had a wonderfully happy, healthy and energetic Betta named Rainbow2 (the "original" Rainbow lasted 3 whopping days and we were too chicken to tell the kids who had just lost a beloved hamster, thus Rainbow2) who has spent the last 19 months in a 1 1/2 gallon bowl with no filter, no heater, what we found out later on was horribly hard water, and lots of love! <Mmmm... love as defined... by...> In addition, I have been "abusing" him by changing the entire bowl every 7-14 days....and well, if I must confess all, I had to use dish soap about once a month to get the hard water buildup off the bowl. <This is not love...> And strangely enough, I had no idea I was doing anything at all wrong, and up until now he doesn't appear to have suffered a bit! He eats one to two pellets of the Betta Gold food and normally "attacks" you when you feed him (a game he loves) and is very friendly. He has taken a few spells over the last year and a half where he hangs out mostly on the bottom for a few days/week here or there when the water is a bit colder, but bounces back well every time, and has NEVER missed a meal in his life. <Good> Well, now he hasn't eaten anything we put in his bowl in over two days, and is extremely lethargic, and won't even move if we come over to the bowl, he has no interest in anything at all. He doesn't appear to look or swim any different when he does move about, he just doesn't move much at all. We had a water softener installed back in probably Jan or Feb, and so we have much nicer water now, and I thought maybe the shock of that had affected him, but it's been well over two months now. He's not slimy or fuzzy looking or swimming lopsided or anything whatsoever, and I just have no idea what to do! Any help GREATLY appreciated! <Mmm, might be the water softener has something to do with this... the excess sodium... if this is one of the common "salt regenerated" types... You might try mixing some non-softened water... But the "real answer" is that this is likely the "end of the shortened lifespan" of this individual... If you'd care to have one live a longer, healthier life... a heated, filtered environment... with a broadened diet... That now you seem aware of> **side note"" for anyone with small children, here's a tip! When the fish dies and you don't want to fess up, replace it with one as similar as possible and them tell them that they "change colors" as they grow up...worked like a charm!! LOL <... Deception, too... is "not love"... Bob Fenner> You killed your Bettas. 4/3/07 i <I - next time, please use proper capitalization, not "net speak"> had a male and female Betta. We put them in a big bowl together... <A single Betta doesn't belong in a non-filtered, non-heated bowl, let alone two. A single Betta should be kept in a minimum 3 gal. filtered tank, with a submersible heater to keep the temperature steady at around 80-82 degrees F. Your setup is simply a recipe for disaster. And, of course, keep in mind temperaments: males can be very aggressive towards females and can literally stalk her to death. Professional Betta breeders recommend keeping the sexes separate, and introducing the female when it's time to breed, then immediately removing her. You, my friend, need to read up on proper Betta care; check here for starters: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm > ...when we change the water. <Now I'm confused. Do they live together or separately? In any case, bowls are a no-no. Best idea is to setup 2 minimum 3-gal. filtered, heated tanks, one for each fish...> They don't attack each other at all...we did that for like 3 weeks. <Ideally, you should be changing no more than about 50% of the water in your 3 gal. Betta tank per week; changing 100% of the water at a time can shock and kill your fish. I imagine you're doing complete water changes because the water is quite filthy...yet another reason not to house any live fish in non-filtered bowls. Also, keep in mind that it's best to feed your fish sparingly - only 2-3 Betta pellets once per day, alternative with bloodworms or Mysis shrimp on occasion...> Well, the other night after we put them each in their own bowls they both spazzed out and were rushing up to the top then slamming themselves down into the rocks. <Sounds like environmental shock - did you test the water for ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH? What was the temperature of that water? It sounds as though the 100% water changes caught up with your fish and caused their demise...> About 20 min.s later they both died. I was just curious as to why they would do that or what would cause that... <Pollutants in the water, too drastic a change in pH, temperature, etc. Read here on how to properly treat tapwater for aquarium use: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/taptrtmnt.htm , and how to "cycle" a tank: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm > Tiffany <Forgive my somewhat terse reply, but I must say I get a bit irritated with telling folks that they need to do their homework, research BEFORE attempting to care for any live animals. In a nutshell, you killed your pets. Have you read up on proper Betta aquarium conditions? Now that you are "fishless" is the time to do so - here's some of my favorite Betta sites: http://www.bcbetta.com/Acclimatizing.html http://www.siamsbestbettas.com/ http://www.healthybetta.com/ Please take the time to do the necessary reading and if you choose to try again, please be sure that you have an appropriate-sized cycled tank prior to purchasing a new Betta. Regards, Jorie> Betta injury 3/31/07 Hello, My
Betta had a spot between his mouth and eye, which looked like someone
stuck him with a pin. It looked bright red like blood. I tried raising
the temp. of his 3 gal tank to 80's, and treated him with two
series of Furan treatments. It seemed like the blood spot kept
reappearing, almost like working its way out. I then
used KanaPlex for a total of two treatments, with no luck.
The fish has injured himself on that sore, and now it has doubled in
size, almost like a cauliflower. I have used E.M.
Erythromycin for the last week. The sore just isn't healing. What
else would you suggest I try? Other than the sore, he is fine.
Thank you, Ann <Mmm, a direct application of an
"antiseptic"... Using a cotton swab ("Q tip") dab a
bit of Mercurochrome, Merthiolate... directly on this spot... holding
the fish out of the water temporarily... and placing it in newly
made-up water (cleaning, disinfecting the present system). Bob
Fenner> Another Betta question...! 3/31/07 Hello, and thank you for the greatest informational site on Bettas I've been able to find!! <Yikes! Powerful endorsement!> I'm a relatively new Betta owner; about 3 weeks or so. Stewart is a beautiful blue and red gentleman who has adjusted well to his 2.5 gallon tank, as compared to the cup I bought him in. Terrible things those little containers, I wanted to buy them all to get them out! (My husband would have none of that) He now has a good quality adjustable heater and a little hidey place (ornamental "stump" with holes) and some nice plants. I change out about half of his water every week, and clean his tank out once every week and a half or two weeks, careful to use only water and no soap. He's fairly active and sociable, gets excited and dances in front of the glass when I come to feed and visit with him! He's a regular bubble nest builder, and can put quite a masterpiece together in short order! <Heee! Well-stated> He's just great. I'm trying to vary his diet with the pellets (he likes the smaller the better) and freeze-dried bloodworms. Also, while he does spread his fins out all pretty like on occasions, he doesn't do it very often. Should I find a mirror to get him going, so to speak, more often? <Mmm, "for temporary use only"... Too stressful to "challenge" continuously> Anyway, more importantly, after much searching and reading on the Ich problem which Stewart has been recently "cured" from, I've been unable to find any info that gives me an idea when I should replace the filter that I emptied the charcoal out of during his treatment, with a new charcoal filter. After his last tank cleaning, I turned down his heater a few degrees (from upper 80's to an 82 - 84 degree range) and used the Aquarisol and salt as directed, but now am concerned that if I put the charcoal filter back in that it will take out the Aquarisol and/or other treatments that might still be in the water. Any guidance and or any other advice you can give me would be very much appreciated! Thanks to all of you for ALL YOU DO!! =) Ruth <Thank you for your kind, encouraging words... I would wait a good two weeks after the treatment is "over" to change the filter media here. Bob Fenner>
Betta tumor? 3/16/2007 Dear Mr. Fenner
& Crew, <Michelle> It seems that when it rains it
pours: I just lost a 2-1/2 year old Oto and a 1 yr old honey
Gourami. Now Haruki (male Betta) has a "tumor" or
"cyst" on his "chin"; its about 1/2 cm below his
mouth between his gills. The "tumor" is the size of a small
pea. Its not discolored or oozing, though the scales in the
"tumor" proper are slightly raised. He's
been less active in the last few weeks, still eating but not ravenously
and spending more time in his lighthouse. I've had Haruki about two
years. <This is a good long while for this species in captivity>
He lives in a well-planted 40 gallon community tank and has a
lighthouse he calls his own, literally chases anyone who goes near
it. All his fishy friends are peaceful (Corys, Otos, dwarf
gouramis, Killies, silver tip tetras & one baby
whale). I'm wondering if feeding live black worms could
be the cause of recent ailments. They're next-day
shipped from Aquatic foods in Ca. <Mmm, not likely. These are
cultured... not usually carriers/vectors of pathogens> Should I move
him to a hospital tank? Or leave him in the main tank and treat
him? <Either way...> I have most of the Maracyn
products on-hand as well as some BiFuran+, and Jungle's antibiotic
food. Or I can buy whatever you recommend. Regards, Michelle
<I would try administering a drop of Iodine, perhaps in the form of
Lugol's Solution, to the water weekly. Bob Fenner> Betta Fish - old age 3/14/07 Hello, <Good morning - Jorie here> I have a Beta <Betta> fish in a 2.5 gallon filtered tank. <Is the tank heated? Bettas like a constant water temperature of 80-82 degrees F.> Dr. Doom has been around for at least 2.5 years (he's been mentioned to the family in the last 3 Christmas letters). <This is a ripe old age for a captive-kept Betta.> Last week, in anticipation of a long weekend vacation, my husband changed the water in the tank. He notice that the light in the tank cover was loose and replaced it with another bulb we had at home. We left for vacation the next day and when we returned (5 days later), Dr. Doom was really struggling and at the bottom of the tank. In fact, we thought he was dead! I added an antibiotic that was purchased at a pet store for an earlier problem and by the end of the evening, he would move and then stay for a while, but always on the bottom and listing to one side. I did get him to eat 3 pieces of his food yesterday (and 2 pieces this morning). When I talked with the pet sitter, they said he was that way from the first day they came by (2 days after the tank change). My husband thinks that the bulb he put on the tank was too strong and the water became overheated, basically cooking poor Dr. Doom. After reading around the internet, it seems that Betas only live 2-3 years and perhaps it's Dr. Doom's time to go. <Do you have a floating thermometer in the tank? You do need to check the water temperature. Also, have you checked ammonia, nitrite and nitrates lately? I wouldn't have jumped straight to the antibiotics without diagnosing what was going on - it sounds as though the issues were primarily, if not totally, environmental. Not a good idea to proactively medicate a fish.> How do I know? Can anything be done for him? He was such a happy, bright Betta and when I came near his tank, he would swim to the front like he was happy to see me. <I, too, love these fish; they are full of individual personality. Best thing to do is to keep his water clean, keep the temperature warm and stable, and feed sparingly. It seems as though once a Betta reaches "old age", he will go "downhill" pretty rapidly. So long as he's eating and swimming a bit, it's OK for him to rest more on the bottom, side of the tank. Just part of the natural aging process...> Thanks, Mary Jo <You're welcome. Hope I've helped. Sounds like you've got a great little Betta there, and you've obviously kept him well for several years - he's lucky to have you! Jorie> Betta and Popeye... 3/13/07 Hi there, <Hello Megan, Brandon with you tonight.> I've recently setup a 3 gallon eclipse system with a Betta and a couple live plants. <This is a very small volume, easy for things to get quickly out of hand. I would opt for a larger system sometime in the near future.> It's been going great for almost 3 weeks now, I've done water changes each week (1 gallon or so), and when I last tested the water (last week), there was virtually no ammonia or nitrites/nitrates. <Virtually is not quite the same as 0. A healthy aquarium has NO ammonia or nitrites.> I have a heater and keep the tank around 80 degrees (although the heater I added seems a bit wonky in this little tank, and it can vary from 75-80). <This is because of the size of the tank. As I mentioned before, get a bigger tank.> I just went out of town for 4 days, with the Betta being fed by a friend on day 1 and 2, no food on day 3, and I fed him when I got home on day 4. When I got home, I immediately noticed he has what I'm assuming has to be pop eye (and temp was down to 75). <Likely related.> It's worse in one eye than the other, but appears to be in both. The eye is noticeably bulging out, and there are white rings around each eye. Other than that, he seems fine and is eating. Researching your site, I see suggestions for Epsom salt, Nitrofurazone, and Metronidazole, and am not sure which to try. I was going to try the Epsom salts first, since that seems like the least obtrusive and most natural approach (and although I think this is pop eye, I'm certainly no expert and maybe it's just really irritated). My question is, if you recommend using the Epsom Salt first, how long should I let it try and work before resorting to something else? <The Epsom Salt should work. I would get the temp back up to, and CONSTANTLY in the mid eighties, and use the Epsom Salt. A little less than the half teaspoon. Give it about three weeks.> Also, according to what I read here, it sounds like about a 1/2 tbsp would be the right amount to add for a 3 gallon tank? <A little less than this amount.> And that won't harm my plants or bio filter, right? <Nope. Might actually help the plants as they require Manganese.> Then, at what point should I then try one of the other medications? <You shouldn't need to. Stable environmental conditions, NO ammonia OR nitrite, and the Epsom Salt.> And which of the two, between Nitrofurazone or Metronidazole? <Please see above. These two medications are likely to harm your bio filter.> I also do not have a quarantine tank, and don't want to harm my bio filter or plants. How long is the usual treatment with those medications? <There should be a recommendation on the back of the bottle. At a guess I would say two weeks.> Would it be ok to put him in a bowl or jar for 1 or 2 days with the medication, and then move him back to his regular tank, or would I be better off just adding the medicine to his main tank? <Honestly, I would wait until the B. splendens was better, and then go to Wal-Mart, buy a 10 gallon tank with a florescent hood, and an appropriate power filter, as well as some water conditioner such as stress coat. I would also ensure that I had an appropriate heater for this volume. My next step would be to go home proceed to set up and fill the 10 gallon with conditioned water, and allow it to heat to an appropriate temperature. The next day, I would cut a section out of the filter in the old tank, and place it in the new filter. I would then transfer the three gallon's occupants to the 10 gallon. This is a rather inexpensive way to keep your fish happy and disease free.> Thanks for the help! <You are welcome, and good luck! Brandon.> Megan Re: Sick Betta 3/28/07 Hi there, <Hello!> I emailed you a few days ago about Splash my sick fighting fish. I was worried he may have constipation or a tumor. However, now I am worried it is one of those and dropsy. Is this possible? <Yes. Quite common in Bettas.> I tried to give him peas and he wouldn't eat them. He went off his food for two days and is now only just eating a pellet or two a day. <Fish eat very little in the wild. So, provided he is eating *something*, don't worry too much about the amount.> I also put some Epson Salts in his water and that doesn't appear to have helped at all. However, now his scaled on his body seem to be poking out from his body. If it is in fact dropsy what can I do for him if anything? <Sounds just like dropsy. Often described as an pinecone appearance. Unfortunately, basically untreatable in small fish, and very difficult to treat in big fish short of a trip to the vet to get prescription medications. Dropsy is a symptom, like a fever in a human, and not a disease itself, and can be cause by all kinds of things from organ failure to viral infections. Hence, without a biopsy, medication is basically trying something and hoping for the best.> It is very sad watching him just sit in the tank all day and not be able to help him. <At some point, you will need to destroy him, simply to prevent suffering. There are various methods. See the euthanasia FAQ, here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/euthanasiafaqs.htm > If you have some advice of what I could do it would be much appreciated. Also, I am in Australia so is it possible to tell me something I may find here? <I hear you! Over here in the UK there are different medications available to those in the US, and antibiotics are basically prescription-only.> I read the thing on dropsy and how to treat it with Furan compounds but I have NEVER heard of this and have no idea what it is. <Furan compounds are a class or organic compounds with antibiotic properties, though as I understand it, like Sulfa drugs, they aren't classed as antibiotics as such. Furazone is an example. In the UK at least, furan drugs are prescription-only, and I would imagine that is the case in Australia too. If in doubt, telephone your vet.> Thanks again <No problem. But sadly, if your Betta has dropsy, it is basically dying, and all you can do is optimize water quality and hope for the best. Check heat, filtration, humidity of the air above its tank, as these are all common problem areas with Bettas. Also bear in mind the lifespan of a Betta in the wild is about a year, and while lifespan varies in aquaria, at some point it will get old and die. Remember, the fish you buy in the shop are basically middle aged to get to the size and finnage people buy them at. This is different to other tropicals, where we buy juvenile fish instead that have plenty of growing still to do (consider angelfish for example). Cheers, Neale.> Question about Betta... env. dis. My Betta
is lethargic and not eating as well as normal. I can't
see any obvious signs of disease. He doesn't appear
swollen or to have any spots. He stays at the bottom of his
bowl <... heated? Filtered?> a lot and sometimes floats as though
he is standing on his tail. I have been trying to do some
research and I am going to get a larger aquarium and a
heater. He may be getting too cold.
<Assuredly> Would that cause this? <Yes> I don't think
he has tail rot, although his tail is not as long as it was, its not
stringy or anything. He looks a little gold in color when
you shine a flashlight on him, but it's not
spotted. Could this be the velvet type disease or maybe swim
bladder disorder? <Only secondarily... the principal
trouble here is environmental... vacillating... improper> I'm
not sure what to try. I will try a heated aquarium with a
filtration system on it first. <Yes> Should I give him an
antibiotic or some kind of medication drops to see if it
helps? What about salt? <No, neither> I'm really
curious about the floating on the end of his tail. Thank You!! Terri
Wolf <Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm and
the linked files above... Your fish needs your care... attention. Now.
Bob Fenner> Re: Question about Betta 3/16/2007 OK,
now my Betta seems to want to float on the bottom and looks sluggish
again. I think he may be getting Popeye and his color is
funny. The streaks in his tail look really
light. I'm not sure what is wrong and I'm not sure
how to treat it. <... the environment... what are your water quality
tests telling you?> I read that sometimes medicines do more harm
than good. I read you can use Epsom salt for Popeye. I think
it was 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons. What do you
recommend? He seemed to be doing so much better and now he
looks worse. He's been in his new aquarium for a
week. Please help. <For you to read: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/betta_splendens.htm
and the linked files above. BobF> Saved my Betta 3/7/07 I can't thank you enough for the informative article on Betta Disease. I have read all the different Betta sites and they all recommend that I treat with medication of some sort or other. When I isolated my dying fish and put salt in the water as well as raised the temperature, it was miraculous! The fish that was gasping his last breath with white fuzz on his body is now swimming and eating normally after eight hours with your recommendations. Thanks! <Ahh, the pleasure. Thank you for relating your success. Bob Fenner> Very sick Betta 3/7/07 Dear Bob, <Sorry Brit, Brandon here today.> My Betta goes from lying on the gravel sideways, to darting around convulsively (looks like he's having a seizure) to hanging from the top of the tank in one place for hours. He frequently appears to be gasping for air. His abdomen appears to be very swollen. His eyes are very swollen. He is not eating. <I would doubt that you are feeding live foods, but if you are I would stop, and go with pellets, or other prepared foods. A picture would help, but this sounds like Popeye, body bloat, and/or possibly a bacterial infection.> The Fish store said to give him Neomycin (1/3 tab) <I would change all of the water out, and add Epsom salt. 2/3 a level teaspoon in your case.> and do 1/3 water changes every day with the medication for 3 days. I have done this for two days, but see no sign of improvement. I'm keeping his 3 gallon tank at 80 degrees with a towel wrapped around it for quiet. The Betta lives in a 3 gallon tank <I would opt for no less than ten gallons, with a power filter.> that is heated to 80 degrees with a heater. He eats Betta bites. The water is completely changed every 7 days. <Not often enough. Every 3-4 days. Are you conditioning the water before putting it in the tank? Chlorine/Chloramines are very toxic, this is why the cities add them to their water.> There is never a positive ammonia reading. <What about Nitrite, and Nitrate?> He is about a year old and never has been sick. There are no other fish in the tank. What do you think could have caused this? Do you have any further suggestions for treatment? <Please see here, http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettadiseases.htm> Thanks for any suggestions. <You are welcome, good luck with this. Brandon.> Britt Betta fins developing clear spots
3/6/07 Hello, <Hi there Bill> I have been
"fish-sitting" my daughter's Betta, Wally, since
Christmas break at college. She realized that her dorm
wasn't the best place to care for him (irregular feeding, temp
changes, etc.) Since we have had him, we have made sure that
he has regular water changes and is kept at a nice temperature (75-78
degrees). <How?> He is doing well as far as eating,
bubble nesting, swimming, flaring, etc. <Good signs> but lately I
have noticed that his lower and upper fins are beginning to lose color
in a few spots and becoming transparent. The spots
aren't near the ends of the fins, but in the middle of them. I have
looked through your website and many others and can't really find
anything that describes this condition. He is about 1 year old and
lives in a 1 gallon tank (small enough to fit in her
dorm.) Heat is provided by an overhead 7 watt light and at
night we turn on a nearby 60 watt desk lamp which keeps his temp pretty
stable. Is there a problem with too much light?
<Possibly> From what I have read, it might be that he is just
aging, <This too> but I would like to be sure. He
seems to be a happy fish - he comes over to greet me when I walk into
the room (like a puppy.) I just want to make sure that he
lives a good full life since my daughter is very attached to him.
Thanks, William L. Cotter <Do know that this sort of
"discoloration" is not atypical, developmental in many
Bettas... this trait has even been selected for by breeders to produce
"Cellophane" et al. named/finned Bettas. I would not be
overly concerned here... as the more-important good behavior you list
indicates this animal to be in good health. Bob Fenner> Re: Betta
fins developing clear spots 3/7/07 Hello,
<William> Interesting that you mentioned the term
"Cellophane finned" since his 2 small side fins have been
almost completely clear since my daughter bought him. They
look like little dark "fingers" in a clear "mitten"
of a fin. <Ahh, a good description> I am also looking for a
heater to better regulate the temp and allow light cycles.
<Yes, this is best> I think I've found one but I will go
check it out tomorrow to see if it fits the tank. <Look for the
"Hydor" brand... they make some very nice small, low wattage
units of good quality> Is there any problem with adding a little
Bettafix or Melafix to his tank as a precaution? <Mmm, is of little
actual value... and possibly some harm... in disallowing efficient
biological conversion... nitrification> I just want to take the best
care of the little guy - I guess I'm his honorary grandpa! <Oh
yes> Thanks for the help, Bill Cotter <Welcome. BobF>
Betta (Crowntail or tail rot) 3/4/07 Hey guys! <<Hello, Karley. Tom here.>> A friend who works at an aquaria store nearby told me to ask you guys since he wasn't too sure how to help me. <<Okay.>> I have a male Betta that I bought 3 months ago. I'm not too sure what type it was but looked like one of your run of the mill Bettas (not a Crowntail). I bought a 2 gallon tank for him, a couple silk plants, a small tank under gravel heater, and a filter. The filter was rarely used since the tank was small and he doesn't like too much current. I fed him a small amount of flakes twice a day. (Let me just say that I am a complete fish virgin.) I did weekly water changes but was too stupid to notice all the poo stuck to the bottom of the plants and gravel. <<Part of the problem with 'smallish' tanks is that they don't easily lend themselves to cleaning the substrate, etc.>> (Since then I've bought a saltwater reef tank with all the trimmings and actually learned a great deal about being a responsible fish owner.) <<Glad to hear this, Karley.>> Because of the reef tank I have learned about ammonia and nitrites and all that jazz. I bought a Hagen test kit with all the droppers etc... Anyway, Betta's ammonia levels were off the charts. <<Oops'¦>> I did a 100% water change and he seemed to be doing great except for his tail was looking rather ragged. And it seemed to be on all his fins. From all the pictures and research I assumed he had tail rot. <<A reasonable assumption given the circumstances.>> I tried the BettaFix (tea tree oil) and nothing happened. So I bought a 10 gallon tank and "hospitalized" him. I medicated him for 5 days with Maracyn 2 (and the usual amount of freshwater salt). <<The salt is the safest way to go for this situation.>> After 7 days I did a 100% water change. I have a small filter on at all times and a proper Jaeger heater set at 79 1/2. He's still a happy guy, swimming and eating, but his tail looks the same. It's been a month since I put him in the new 10 gal. tank. Water quality is top notch. (I have a tap water filter that I got for the reef tank.) No ammonia, nitrate, or nitrite, perfect pH. <<I like the sounds of that!>> Well, I was very confused, so I invited my aquarium friend over to look at him and maybe attempt some surgery if needed (cutting off the offending pieces). <<Eeek! There are rare occasions when a surgical procedure is the only way to save the animal's life but 'cosmetic' surgery is a good way to end its life.>> He looked at Betta and said that he looks exactly like a Crowntail Betta and didn't want to do anything until I got some advice from you. <<Whew.>> Looking at pics of other Crowntail Bettas he looks like them, but he definitely didn't when I bought him and it was kind of strange that this all started around the time of the ammonia incident. <<Coincidental.>> So my very long winded question for you is, can a Crowntail Betta look like a normal one and a month later have those "special" looking fins? <<Possibly. Bear in mind that same finnage traits that make Crowntail distinctive can be present in any Betta. The gene responsible is partially dominant which makes it a good bet that as long as one parent shares the gene, the offspring will share it as well. In other words, you'd have to be sure of the breeder to know that you're getting a 100% Crowntail Betta.>> Any response would be oh so helpful. BTW, I love your site, it actually helped me out a lot with my clownfish. Very comprehensive. <<Thanks, Karley. We appreciate it and we're happy to have been of help.>> Thank you ever so much in advance, Karley P.S. I've never had any other fish with him so he LOVES his 10 gallon tank to himself. <<A ten-gallon tank is about the optimum size for Bettas so I don't doubt for a moment that he's in 'fishy Heaven'. Best regards. Tom>>
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