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My golf fish seems to have fin rot but I don’t know exactly
3/31/20
At first my golf fish started to get a few pieces of its rear tail being
torn off it looked like.
<Golf fish? Torn its tail? Should have used a five iron maybe, instead of a
driver...>
I quickly blamed my other fish I just got from a local stream.
<This is certainly possible. Fancy Goldfish (so, pretty much
anything other than your Commons or Comets) are incapable of doing well with
things like Minnows and Shiners. Even with the best will in the world, these
more active wild-type fish will simply view the long fins of Fancy Goldfish
as either toys or meals. Often both. Commons and Comets are simply carp with
different colours, and, in the case of Comets, longer, but not disabling,
finnage. So they usually do fine with native fish, size and temperament
allowing, but if combined with aggressive or snappy fish, they'll be damaged
as easily as any other inoffensive schooling fish.>
I don’t know exactly what fish they are but they have a blue rear fin and a
yellow belly. I looked up a few fishes that looked similar but the closest
one was a molly.
<Really do need a decent photo. And to know what country you're in! If
you're in the US, what state you're in makes a big difference too, the fish
faunas of the Southeast being entirely different to those of the Pacific
Northwest. But broadly, if you're in the US, there are likely two sorts of
fish you'll catch easily outside of the warm Southeastern states: various
cyprinids (minnows and shiners) and then the various sunfishes (such as
pumpkinseeds, sunfish, and bass). Cyprinids tend to be active schooling
fish, with pelvic fins set well back along the body, rather like your
Goldfish. Sunfish are typical perciform fish, with their pelvic fins more or
less underneath the pectoral fins. They are less active, more like lurking
predators really, and tend to be territorial and nippy.>
This is the fish.
<Your photo is much too small to be of much use. The long body is
cyprinid-like, vaguely like Nocomis spp., but then again, the longitudinal
stripes remind me of the Umbridae, such as the Eastern Mudminnow. But
really, no idea without a proper photo.>
But then I started to speculate it was fin rot. But I am not completely sure
of it here is a picture of the golf fish. Also I have separated the golf
fish and the other fish.
<Wise. Goldfish recover well from this sort of injury given good water
quality (zero ammonia and nitrite); but feel free to use a commercial fin
rot medication if you have one. Cheers, Neale.>
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Re: My golf fish seems to have fin rot but I don’t
know exactly 4/1/20
Okay I’m glad to know that the photos were too small I had a
feeling they were here are some original sized pictures of both fish
<Right, the greenish fish with the dark stripes -- it's a Sailfin Molly of
some kind. Poecilia latipinna more than likely. A more or less strictly
herbivorous fish, so therefore eats much the same things as Goldfish. Needs
hard, alkaline water to do well; some salt is often recommended, though not
strictly necessary. Would suggest you do some reading, here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/mollies.htm
No particular reason it can't cohabit with Goldfish, but some male Mollies
can be aggressive, so best watch how they interact. Cheers, Neale.>
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Orandas with raw reddish patches and white bumps
/RMF 12/6/19
<Edward, hi; am unable to either download your zip, nor open the indiv.
jpegs here. Would you place them on the net and send the link along?>
I’ve spent hours looking through your site, (THANK YOU for it’s
existence!), but couldn’t find any images with descriptions that I could
be sure matched mine. So, I’ll give writing in a try!
<Ah, good>
Several weeks ago I thought I noticed the beginnings of an inch
infection and treated the entire tank with salt. I added a tablespoon
for every 5 gallons, then repeated two days later. The white spots
seemed to have gotten better, but there’s been a raw “meaty” outbreak on
the tail of one for a while now that has gotten worse, and another has a
white round eruption and is hanging out at the bottom of the tank more
than usual. The third seems fine.
I have a 65 gallon tank with a 406 Fluval and have under gravel filters
with 2 power heads. The air pump is for a 100 gallon tank and the tank
has plenty of aeration. I used to feed them Tetra Goldfish Flakes and
sometimes frozen brine shrimp, but I thought I might be introducing
disease with the shrimp and stopped that.
<Actually, the frozen Artemia shouldn't harbor any goldfish pathogens. I
would supplement the flake food for sure>
Now I feed them North Fin Premium Goldfish pellets that sink. (I haven’t
noticed any difference in the fish with the change of food and it’s been
almost a year.)
<Unfamiliar w/ this brand, and their site doesn't offer specifics as to
formulation, guaranteed analysis.>
I measured the ammonia levels and they are zero. There are 3 goldfish,
two of which I need help with.
I have sharpened the images so their scales appear more pronounced in
some images more than they actually are, but I wanted the outbreaks to
be well defined.
<Need to see these pix>
Fish one has had a reddish outbreak for months now and it’s getting
worse. Changing the tank water and using Melafix alone, then later
Melafix with Pimafix, hasn’t cured it.
<Am decidedly NOT a fan of these plant extracts. Google WWM re>
About a year or so ago I had another fish that was also having eruptions
and treated the tank with Amoxicillin. I used 1 Capsule (500mg.) per 20
gallons every day for 7 days. Overall, there seemed to be improvement,
however one fish may have had some kind of scale damage that could not
be repaired and had a large, cottony “growth” on it’s side. It behaved
normally and seemed unaffected by it. Fish one behaves normally, but the
red and raw looking patches are getting worse. Did the salt make it
worse?
<Can't say; but I would (again) augment this food... with a mix of
frozen that has a good deal of plant material (or fresh,
blanched/microwaved fresh; see WWM re GF nutrition), and mix in some (to
me known) dried prepared of good value (Hikari, Spectrum)>
Fish two was fine, except that now it appears that a white growth is
appearing on it’s side. There appears to be some white on it’s head too.
Is that ich?
<Doubtful; Ich appears as discrete pin-head size white dots... more on
the fins than the bodies in goldfish>
However, this is the one that’s bothering me because it suddenly is
spending lots of time on the bottom of the tank and none of them have
ever done that before without dire consequences. (The end is near.)
Tomorrow I’ll change the tank water. I was thinking of leaving the
charcoal out of the fluvial and treating with the Amoxicillin again.
<Mmm; I'd give up on antibiotic use. This situation is environmental,
nutritional in etiology. Water changes and food additions is the route
I'd go>
All of their fins appear pretty normal. No pronounced red streaks or
tears. I am desperate to get my fish healthy and happy again. I’ve kept
fancy goldfish for about 40 years and I’ve never had struggles like this
before.
<Ahh, I too am a giant fan of fancies... for more than this duration.
They are "not what they used to be" health/quality wise; nor is the
water in many places.>
I do believe there might be something in the tap water, but I don’t know
for sure. I always use AmQuel Plus and NovAqua when I change the water
and add 5 tablespoons of aquarium salt for every 5 gallons of new water.
<I'd cut back the salt by half, but the water treatments you list are
good>
My fish and I thank you in advance for any expert advice we can get!
Thank you SO much!
Fish 1:
Fish 2:
<Bob Fenner>
Orandas with raw reddish patches and white bumps
12/7/19
I’ve spent hours looking through your site, (THANK YOU for it’s
existence!), but couldn’t find any images with descriptions that I could
be sure matched mine. So, I’ll give writing in a try!
<Sure thing, and thanks for the kind words.>
Several weeks ago I thought I noticed the beginnings of an inch
infection and treated the entire tank with salt. I added a tablespoon
for every 5 gallons, then repeated two days later. The white spots
seemed to have gotten better, but there’s been a raw “meaty” outbreak on
the tail of one for a while now that has gotten worse, and another has a
white round eruption and is hanging out at the bottom of the tank more
than usual. The third seems fine.
I have a 65 gallon tank with a 406 Fluval and have under gravel filters
with 2 power heads. The air pump is for a 100 gallon tank and the tank
has plenty of aeration. I used to feed them Tetra Goldfish Flakes and
sometimes frozen brine shrimp, but I thought I might be introducing
disease with the shrimp and stopped that. Now I feed them North Fin
Premium Goldfish pellets that sink. (I haven’t noticed any difference in
the fish with the change of food and it’s been almost a year.) I
measured the ammonia levels and they are zero. There are 3 goldfish, two
of which I need help with.
I have sharpened the images so their scales appear more pronounced in
some images more than they actually are, but I wanted the outbreaks to
be well defined.
Fish one has had a reddish outbreak for months now and it’s getting
worse. Changing the tank water and using Melafix alone, then later
Melafix with Pimafix, hasn’t cured it.
<Indeed; both are fairly useless, or at least, unreliable.>
About a year or so ago I had another fish that was also having eruptions
and treated the tank with Amoxicillin. I used 1 Capsule (500mg.) per 20
gallons every day for 7 days. Overall, there seemed to be improvement,
however one fish may have had some kind of scale damage that could not
be repaired and had a large, cottony “growth” on it’s side. It behaved
normally and seemed unaffected by it. Fish one behaves normally, but the
red and raw looking patches are getting worse. Did the salt make it
worse?
<Nope. Low salt concentrations are completely harmless to Carassius
auratus.>
Fish two was fine, except that now it appears that a white growth is
appearing on it’s side. There appears to be some white on it’s head too.
Is that ich? However, this is the one that’s bothering me because it
suddenly is spending lots of time on the bottom of the tank and none of
them have ever done that before without dire consequences. (The end is
near.) Tomorrow I’ll change the tank water. I was thinking of leaving
the charcoal out of the fluvial and treating with the Amoxicillin again.
<Which won't help if the problem is viral, which is what I suspect.>
All of their fins appear pretty normal. No pronounced red streaks or
tears. I am desperate to get my fish healthy and happy again. I’ve kept
fancy goldfish for about 40 years and I’ve never had struggles like this
before. I do believe there might be something in the tap water, but I
don’t know for sure. I always use AmQuel Plus and NovAqua when I change
the water and add 5 tablespoons of aquarium salt for every 5 gallons of
new water.
My fish and I thank you in advance for any expert advice we can get!
Thank you SO much!
<Do look at photos of Carp Pox on Goldfish. This is moderately common,
but alas, there's no treatment. A vet may be able to remove some
lesions, but beyond that, it's a case of waiting for the immune system
to deal with it. Under good conditions, that can happen, but it will
take months, even years, of good care. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Orandas with raw reddish patches and white bumps
12/7/19
Hi Neale. Thank you SO much for your kind and generous response. Does
this reply mean that you were able to open the jpegs?
<Yes, no problem opening and examining the images. The thing is, bloody
sores and white growths are actually characteristic of a range of
diseases. Bacterial infections including plain old Finrot on the one
hand, and the much more sinister Septicaemia on the other. Viral
infections, notably Carp Pox, can produce pinkish-white growths on the
body too, though usually without obvious evidence of bleeding. So to
some extent I can point you in the right direction, but you need to look
at those possibilities, compare them with images online, and study
things like the behaviour of your fish, and whether the tissue looks
actively flaking and bleeding (bacteria infection more likely) or simply
wart- or tumour-like (in which case a viral cause might be suspected).
It's really difficult to diagnose viral infections in fish, with only
one or two having obvious symptoms (Lymphocystis springs to mind).>
If not, I wonder where I would post the images? Would it be helpful to
resend them at a smaller size? I’m a photographer and spent some time
getting the best images I could. I will search for Carp pox on goldfish.
And, yes, I have wondered if some of the issues were viral. I suspect
for sure that was true on one fish I had that never got better no matter
what I did. I hate to admit it, and still feel horrible about it to this
day, but he was so unsightly with a large growth on his side that I
euthanized him, even though he wasn’t bothered by it and in face seemed
kind of happy. Oh Lord… I’m a murderer!
<Yikes!>
So - if you have time to let me know if you were able to see the images
and if not, if it would help to resend them smaller, please let me know.
Otherwise, I’ll just work on keeping the water as clean as possible and
monitor carefully.
Thank you again! Edward
<Glad to help, and feel free to keep us posted with any further changes
or symptoms you come across. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Orandas with raw reddish patches and white bumps
12/7/19
Hi again. I looked at images of Carp pox, and that is what I concluded
the fish I euthanized had.
<Understood.>
However, the sores the two fish have now don’t have the same look as he
did, but I know that that virus could be contagious.
<Tricky this one. Yes, viruses should be contagious. But in reality,
with most if not all of the fish virus infections we encounter, they are
unlikely to transfer to otherwise healthy fish. For some reason there
needs to be a stress factor at work, such as inappropriate water
chemistry or acute physical trauma (such as fish tattooing) before the
virus 'jumps across' to other fish.>
That could explain why two have sores and one doesn’t. Perhaps that one
is immune to it?
<Exactly so.>
And maybe there is a secondary infection on top of it in the one fish
with the red sores?
<Certainly possible, and treating as per a systemic bacteria infection
is worth a shot. There is a form of viral haemorrhagic septicaemia
occasionally seen in fish that does seem to be a combination of virus
and bacterial agents, so the use of antibiotics can help. Symptoms
include reddish patches on the body, bloating, disinterest in food, and
eventually death. There isn't a known cure as such, but thankfully it's
pretty rare. Caught early on, as I say, antibiotics may help, and the
fish's own immune system kick in strongly enough to remove the virus.
But with most of these viral infections that's about all we can do,
because there are no commercially available antiviral medicines useful
on fish. Fortunately, they are rarely contagious, so we don't encounter
them very often.>
Doing all that I can. Thanks again! Edward
<The best you can do is all you can do. Good luck, Neale.>
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Reggie 10 year old Goldfish; env. dis.
10/22/19
Hi,
<Hello>
We have had Reggie for a very long time. He has lived in his 10 gallon
tank alone for all this time and has been quite healthy.
<Yikes; even a single goldfish needs more room than this... Likely this
fish has been "Bonsai'd", its life foreshortened by long-exposure to its
own metabolites. SEE, as in READ on WWM re gf care.>
He has eaten only Spectrum pellets for years now and would normally get
maybe 6-7 per day.
<Am a huge fan of the Spectrum line; fed it for years to my fancy
goldfish, and to tropicals>
Recently he has been having a hard time getting his pellets. He would
always come to the top and we would try to get them as close to his
mouth as possible. Sometimes he would even come up and take right from
you. Other times they would fall and he would end up searching them out.
Lately I would drop in the food always one at a time and he would go for
it but keeps missing it. Eventually with much patience would keep trying
and he would get. In the past week he would go for the food but go right
by it. My son came home from college and said he thinks he got a tumor
or something because there appears to be a bulge under his skin near his
back.
<Possible>
Hard to really even see it. He thought he was dying but he hasn’t. Was
still swimming around until a few days ago when he would try to come up
to get food and totally miss it and drop back down to the bottom and
stay there.
<Perhaps blind?>
He moves a bit and seems to be breathing but gasping a bit. I decided to
do a water change since it had been close to a month and did so.
<... should be done weekly. READ:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/goldfish101art.htm
and the linked files above>
I took out maybe a third or less of the water. I read on the internet to
make the water a little warmer so that’s what I did.
<Good technique, percentage>
Now he is really on the bottom and not moving around very much. I took
the water to the aquarium store yesterday and she said she thinks I
cleaned it too much and the ammonia level is too high
<... any (appreciable, measurable) is too high, toxic>
so she said to scoop out some of the water from the top and add room
temperature water and a few drops of the water conditioner as I always
do. I also always add aquarium salt but she said not necessary now. Is
there anything else I can do?
<A bigger world (at least twenty gallons), more (redundant) filtration,
frequent partial water changes (25% weekly)...>
We are going away next week and out of the country to visit our daughter
at school for over a week and concerned how someone else will be able to
care for him. Even concerned for now! Can you offer any suggestions??
<The reading...>
Thanks Olivia
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Re: Reggie 10 year old Goldfish... deflection
10/23/19
Hi
So my question about him sitting on the floor of the tank wasn’t
addressed. What do you do?
<Umm, as stated...>
From reading what you said to read about goldfish care it says
constipation can be an issue? How would you even know that?
<Not constipation w/ the food you're using>
I am not clear about what I can do to help.
<Please re-read the previous message. BobF>
There has always been a filter in the tank. He has lives so many years
in the 12 gallon tank don’t really think he has a problem with this.
Please reply.
Thanks
Olivia
Fungus Among us, GF dis.
9/24/19
Hello everyone. I would just like to say your site is the absolute BEST!
I have shamelessly stalked your content for anything related to goldfish
and can honestly say that my finned babies would not have survived more
than a few months at best had I not done so. Thank you so very much for
sharing your knowledge with us. Having goldfish as pets is a lot harder
than most people realize. That said...
<Ahh!>
My apologies in advance for the mini-novel but I'm not sure where to
begin.
Let me start by providing what I hope will be some useful background
information. I currently have two fish tanks- a 20-gallon heated,
filtered, moderately planted tank that houses a seemingly bored betta
named Milo and a 40-gallon tank that houses three regular goldfish, the
oldest of whom, Morgan, has been in my care for a little over nine years
now. The goldfish tank was heavily planted once or twice, but it's tough
keeping live plants around goldfish because, well, they eat absolutely
everything.
Now they have what I like to call a water bush that quietly floats from
one side of the tank to the other (likely to avoid being eaten). The
40-gallon tank has two hang on the back filters- one for tanks that are
up to 50 gallons and a second for tanks that are up to 90 gallons.
<Good to have such over-filtration and redundancy>
I do this for two reasons: 1) goldfish are very messy little creatures
and 2) if one filter fails, I will have a backup to ensure that the tank
remains cycled until the new filter has a chance to get established.
There
is also a pond pump with an ultraviolet light lurking in one of the back
corners of the tank. I check the filters once a week when I clean the
tank, however I only replace the filters approximately every other month
or so unless otherwise indicated. The tank is fully cycled and has been
for many years now. The ammonia and nitrite levels consistently stay at
zero and the nitrate levels toggle between 10 ppm (at the beginning of
the week) and 20 ppm (which is where I usually am at the end of the week
when I clean the tank). I have never had a pH reading other than 7.4 on
this tank.
<So far, great>
The fish are fed a diet that consists mostly of homemade gel food
consisting of shrimp, raw garlic and fresh spinach that is supplemented
with a variety of fruits (usually oranges) and things like sweet peas,
boiled sweet potatoes, roasted seaweed, etc. Loads of Anacharis are
added to the tank once a quarter or so which the fish usually decimate
over the course of a week. Once or twice a year the goldfish will get
Life Spectrum pellets.
<Am a huge fan>
I am thoroughly convinced that this diet has not only kept my fish
relatively healthy over the years, but that it plays a crucial role in
allowing me to keep my tank parameters in check (along with the weekly
cleanings, that is). And now onto my problem...
Nearly four weeks ago, I noticed that my oldest fish, Morgan, had
reddened gills (it was only visible to me when he was swimming away from
me, though). The gill panels appeared to be perfectly fine, and
everything else on this fish appeared to be completely normal including
his appetite and behavior. It was the flesh underneath the gill panels
that had me concerned. The color reminded me of either a ruby red
grapefruit or a blood orange. A quick water check revealed that the
parameters were fine:
ammonia:0 ppm, nitrites: 0 ppm, nitrates: 20 ppm with a pH of 7.4. The
temperature was a little high (~81 degrees- I live in the high desert so
there is not much I can do about that aside from setting my thermostat
for 78 degrees for the entire summer). Erring on the side of caution, I
did a partial water change taking great care to thoroughly vacuum every
inch of the gravel and reprogrammed the lights on the tank to only come
on for 6 hours of the day so that they won't overheat the tank.
<Good moves. I'd leave the lights off during all daylight hours>
I also made a note to keep an eye on the tank in preparation for
whatever was about to come next (because I just knew it would be
something!).
I didn't have to wait long. Less than a week later, I noticed that
Morgan was sitting near the bottom of the tank breathing a little faster
than usual. I also noticed that his left gill was inflamed. A quick
glance
around the tank revealed that the other fish were looking and behaving
normally. Morgan didn't appear to be in any other distress aside from
being a little quiet (and to this day continues to eat like a pig), but
I
knew this swollen gill wasn't normal. I immediately got out my API kit
and checked the parameters which were exactly the same as they'd been
the week before. It was another hot day though so I did a partial water
change of 50% and started dosing with Tetracycline in case this was the
beginning of
something bacterial. Once the treatment was completed, Morgan was a
little perkier but he was still breathing faster than I would have
liked. Not knowing the exact nature of his ailment, I opted to wait a
day or so to see if more symptoms would present themselves so I'd have a
better idea on how to treat this issue.
Approximately one week later, I walked by the tank and noticed that
Morgan had a long ribbon of something that looked like cotton coming
from this inflamed gill. I knew it was a fungus of some type but I
didn't know whether it was a true fungus or one that was caused by a
bacterial infection. Once again I immediately checked the water
parameters (okay, after I stopped cussing like a sailor), and once again
the water parameters were exactly as they had been the previous weeks. I
conducted two water
changes to get the nitrates down to 10 ppm, then I dosed the tank with
API's E.M. Erythromycin. I had planned to also run API's Fungus Cure
simultaneously in case this turned out to be a true fungus but the only
medication my local fish stores carried was that herbal stuff Pimafix
and Kordon's Rid Fungus which did not interest me (I thought they would
make things worse).
Within the first 24 hours of dosing the tank with E.M. Erythromycin, the
trail of fungus disappeared. I thought I was on the right track with the
Erythromycin but at the end of the treatment the gill was still
inflamed.
I saw no clear evidence of parasites (i.e. flashing, thickening slime
coat, raggedy fins and/or damage to the body) and didn't want to further
stress him for treating him for a phantom ailment. Do keep in mind that
I am no expert on fish-keeping so I could very easily be wrong about
this not being a parasite. It's just that my previous experience with
parasites (ich) is that they breed like roaches. For every one you see,
a million more are hiding in the tank- most of whom tend to make their
presences known over
the course of hours and not weeks.
A few days ago I grabbed a flashlight to see if I could better determine
why Morgan's gill was still swollen despite all the antibiotic therapy.
In the left gill just under the upper part of the panel is what appears
to be a speck of something a little larger than the head of a pin that
looks like a clump of white, fuzzy cotton or a spider's web. It looks
like the mold you would see on old cheese or bread except it is white in
color. Could this be a true fungus?
<Possibly... I suspect it is secondary... >
(And if so, how did it get in this tank?
<Mmm; funguses are all about... from the air likely>
I only ask because if there's one thing I've learned about fish care
it's that prevention is the best medicine). I have ordered API's Fungus
Cure online which should be arriving sometime today just in case. I have
no other idea what this could possibly be.
That's all I have to report for now. Aside from the fact that Morgan's
breathing is still a little fast, he continues to eat normally. He even
scavenges for food like his tank mates. Any assistance you can provide
will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Tracy
<My best guess is that this fish's trouble originated w/ a physical
trauma... bumping in to something hard... the fungus/bacteria a result
of opportunity. I'd stop the medicines you list and try simple salt
treatment.
See Neale's piece here re:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/SaltUseFWArtNeale.htm
Bob Fenner>
Fungus Among us /Neale 9/25/19
Hello everyone. I would just like to say your site is the absolute BEST!
I have shamelessly stalked your content for anything related to goldfish
and can honestly say that my finned babies would not have survived more
than a few months at best had I not done so. Thank you so very much for
sharing your knowledge with us. Having goldfish as pets is a lot harder
than most people realize. That said...
<Thanks for these kind words.>
My apologies in advance for the mini-novel but I'm not sure where to
begin.
Let me start by providing what I hope will be some useful background
information. I currently have two fish tanks- a 20-gallon heated,
filtered, moderately planted tank that houses a seemingly bored betta
named Milo and a 40-gallon tank that houses three regular goldfish, the
oldest of whom, Morgan, has been in my care for a little over nine years
now.
<Understood.>
The goldfish tank was heavily planted once or twice, but it's tough
keeping live plants around goldfish because, well, they eat absolutely
everything.
<Correct. Can be worth the effort, but these fish (and Carp generally)
are natural bulldozers in the wild, uprooting plants and creating so
much silt by their snuffling about the water gets too murky for light to
penetrate.
So yep, mixing Goldfish with plants is a challenge, whether in the wild
or in captivity. Floating plants (like water lilies) work best.>
Now they have what I like to call a water bush that quietly floats from
one side of the tank to the other (likely to avoid being eaten). The
40-gallon tank has two hang on the back filters- one for tanks that are
up to 50 gallons and a second for tanks that are up to 90 gallons. I do
this for two reasons: 1) goldfish are very messy little creatures and 2)
if one filter fails, I will have a backup to ensure that the tank
remains cycled until the new filter has a chance to get established.
<Sounds wise.>
There is also a pond pump with an ultraviolet light lurking in one of
the back corners of the tank. I check the filters once a week when I
clean the tank, however I only replace the filters approximately every
other month or so unless otherwise indicated.
<All sounds fine so far.>
The tank is fully cycled and has been for many years now. The ammonia
and nitrite levels consistently stay at zero and the nitrate levels
toggle between 10 ppm (at the beginning of the week) and 20 ppm (which
is where I usually am at the end of the week when I clean the tank). I
have never had
a pH reading other than 7.4 on this tank.
<Cool. Goldfish do prefer basic water chemistry, so around 7 to 8 is
ideal.>
The fish are fed a diet that consists mostly of homemade gel food
consisting of shrimp, raw garlic and fresh spinach that is supplemented
with a variety of fruits (usually oranges) and things like sweet peas,
boiled sweet potatoes, roasted seaweed, etc.
<All sounds good. Probably better than what I eat!>
Loads of Anacharis are added to the tank once a quarter or so which the
fish usually decimate over the course of a week. Once or twice a year
the goldfish will get Life Spectrum pellets. I am thoroughly convinced
that this diet has not only kept my fish relatively healthy over the
years, but that it plays a crucial role in allowing me to keep my tank
parameters in check (along with the weekly cleanings, that is). And now
onto my problem...
<Yes...>
Nearly four weeks ago, I noticed that my oldest fish, Morgan, had
reddened gills (it was only visible to me when he was swimming away from
me, though). The gill panels appeared to be perfectly fine, and
everything else on this fish appeared to be completely normal including
his appetite and behavior. It was the flesh underneath the gill panels
that had me concerned. The color reminded me of either a ruby red
grapefruit or a blood orange.
<The gill filaments themselves should look bright, almost cardinal red.
Diseases gills tend to look paler, even grey or white.>
A quick water check revealed that the parameters were fine: ammonia:0
ppm, nitrites: 0 ppm, nitrates: 20 ppm with a pH of 7.4. The temperature
was a little high (~81 degrees- I live in the high desert so there is
not much I can do about that aside from setting my thermostat for 78
degrees for the entire summer). Erring on the side of caution, I did a
partial water change taking great care to thoroughly vacuum every inch
of the gravel and reprogrammed the lights on the tank to only come on
for 6 hours of the day so that they won't overheat the tank. I also made
a note to keep an eye on the tank in preparation for whatever was about
to come next (because I just knew it would be something!).
<Oh dear...>
I didn't have to wait long. Less than a week later, I noticed that
Morgan was sitting near the bottom of the tank breathing a little faster
than usual. I also noticed that his left gill was inflamed. A quick
glance
around the tank revealed that the other fish were looking and behaving
normally. Morgan didn't appear to be in any other distress aside from
being a little quiet (and to this day continues to eat like a pig), but
I
knew this swollen gill wasn't normal. I immediately got out my API kit
and checked the parameters which were exactly the same as they'd been
the week before. It was another hot day though so I did a partial water
change of 50% and started dosing with Tetracycline in case this was the
beginning of
something bacterial. Once the treatment was completed, Morgan was a
little perkier but he was still breathing faster than I would have
liked. Not knowing the exact nature of his ailment, I opted to wait a
day or so to see if more symptoms would present themselves so I'd have a
better idea on how to treat this issue.
<Indeed; the right approach.>
Approximately one week later, I walked by the tank and noticed that
Morgan had a long ribbon of something that looked like cotton coming
from this inflamed gill.
<Yikes.>
I knew it was a fungus of some type but I didn't know whether it was a
true fungus or one that was caused by a bacterial infection. Once again
I immediately checked the water parameters (okay, after I stopped
cussing like a sailor), and once again the water parameters were exactly
as they had been the previous weeks. I conducted two water changes to
get the nitrates down to 10 ppm, then I dosed the tank with API's E.M.
Erythromycin. I had planned to also run API's Fungus Cure simultaneously
in case this turned out to be a true fungus but the only medication my
local fish stores carried was that herbal stuff Pimafix and Kordon's Rid
Fungus which did not interest me (I thought they would make things
worse).
Within the first 24 hours of dosing the tank with E.M. Erythromycin, the
trail of fungus disappeared.
<Odd. Fungal infections don't often respond to antibiotics.>
I thought I was on the right track with the Erythromycin but at the end
of the treatment the gill was still inflamed. I saw no clear evidence of
parasites (i.e. flashing, thickening slime coat, raggedy fins and/or
damage to the body) and didn't want to further stress him for treating
him for a phantom ailment. Do keep in mind that I am no expert on
fish-keeping so I could very easily be wrong about this not being a
parasite. It's just that my previous experience with parasites (ich) is
that they breed like roaches. For every one you see, a million more are
hiding in the tank- most of whom tend to make their presences known over
the course of hours and not weeks.
<Whitespot/Ick is usually quite easy to treat. Salt/heat works well with
salt-tolerant fish like Goldfish. Otherwise reliable Whitespot
medications like eSHa EXIT are reliable and easy to use.>
A few days ago I grabbed a flashlight to see if I could better determine
why Morgan's gill was still swollen despite all the antibiotic therapy.
In the left gill just under the upper part of the panel is what appears
to be a speck of something a little larger than the head of a pin that
looks like a clump of white, fuzzy cotton or a spider's web. It looks
like the mold you would see on old cheese or bread except it is white in
color. Could this be a true fungus? (And if so, how did it get in this
tank? I only ask because if there's one thing I've learned about fish
care it's that prevention is the best medicine). I have ordered API's
Fungus Cure online which should be arriving sometime today just in case.
I have no other idea
what this could possibly be.
That's all I have to report for now. Aside from the fact that Morgan's
breathing is still a little fast, he continues to eat normally. He even
scavenges for food like his tank mates. Any assistance you can provide
will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Tracy
<I'm thinking that Branchiomycosis is the culprit here. It's a fungus,
and probably latent in most fish tanks. Ordinarily it doesn't infect
healthy fish. But at unusually high temperatures, possibly also in
situations where nitrite or ammonia are too high, or the tank
overstocked, the Branchiomyces spores infect the gills of the fish,
causing death of the surrounding tissue. Unfortunately there are no
tried-and-trusted treatments.
Phenoxyethanol is probably the best bet, but any decent proprietary
anti-fungal medication is worth a shot (though things like Melafix
aren't).
Commercially, medications like Malachite Green are used to disinfect new
stock, but honestly, treating fish once they actually get sick is very
hit-and-miss. Isolation of infected fish is normally recommended to
prevent infection of other fish, but that may or not be practical here,
in which can prophylactic treatment as per Fungus may minimise the risk.
FWIW, Branchiomycosis is quite common in farmed Carp and Goldfish, and
you can find many photos (and doubtless horror stories) online. Cheers,
Neale.>
Re: Fungus Among us (RMF, Branchiomycosis?)<<Maybe>>
9/25/19
Thank you Neale and Bob for responding to me so quickly. I went ahead
and dosed the tank with API's Fungus Cure last night before I received
your response because I was just so anxious to do something to help
Morgan, as he's been afflicted with this ailment for about a month now (
I have indeed seen all the pictures of fish who are afflicted with
Branchiomycosis and I am keeping my fingers crossed that my little one
does not have that).
<Let's hope!>
He's still breathing a little faster than I like but the inflammation
has gone down quite a bit and today he was more active than I've seen
him in weeks.
<Positive.>
I guess all I can really do now is wait and see what happens next. If
this treatment doesn't work then I will definitely try the aquarium
salt.
<Salt for Whitespot; has no impact on fungal infections.>
Thanks, again for your responses. You guys totally ROCK!
Tracy
<Glad to help. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Fungus Among us (RMF, Branchiomycosis?)
10/1/19
Hello, everyone. Morgan's energy level has returned to normal. His fins
are no longer clamped and the only time he stays put is when he's
sleeping.
There is no further evidence of fungus in the afflicted gill that I can
see, however I am concerned because the gill in question no longer moves
when he breathes. Do you think the tissue will rejuvenate/recover with
time or has it been permanently damaged? This is likely going to be one
of
those wait and see moments. It's just that even in the best of
circumstances, a fish with one active gill concerns me. Is there
anything more I should do for him?
Thanks, again.
Tracy
<Gill tissue can regrow, but it takes a while. Good water quality will
help, but in the meantime, extra oxygen in the water would help the
fish.
Cheers, Neale.>
Fancy Goldfish question....White bumps on the Wen?
6/15/19
Hi again,
<Sass>
I am looking for someone to tell me that white growths on my huge
Oranda's Wen are not ICK.
<Mmm; not likely they are ich at all, IF this is the only site where the
spots are. Instead these are discrete body slime accumulations. Nothing
to worry about>
I see people who say that it's normal for these fish to get some lumps
and bumps of a whitish nature on their Wens as they grow.
<This is so>
But this white spot looked like 3 little lumps in a group which have how
irrupted and are hallow holes, like the tops blew off and something came
out!
There are more spots on the Wen, but I don't see any spots on the rest
of the fish. Except for his male spots on his gill covers. He's
definitely a boy.
But now I am concerned that if the spots opened something that came out
is now in my pond and looking for more fish to get onto. I have 5 three
inch fancies and the 1 six inch one,....in a big pond, with water
lilies, pond hyacinth and pond poppies. If I put salt in it will kill
the plants!
<Too likely to hurt them, yes>
We have 2 Pond Air stones going, and a nice full waterfall, for
oxygenation.
We clean the overflow filter box every 2 days, it get dirty fast, but is
easy to clean. I have a UV light in the pond, but it doesn't seem to do
much ....still have lots of algae growing in it. Not green water though,
just on the sides of the pond, and since I know goldfish should eat
greens I am not too worried about the algae. In my mind green algae
means healthy water!
LOL!
Because our water tends to get acidic quickly I have the waterfall
coming down on a nice piece of Texas Holey Rock to keep the minerals in
there for buffering. It has been raining a lot, so I haven't done any
water changes,.. .since the pond gets full and then water trickles out
between the top stones on the edges. Would you do 50% water changes on
pond goldfish too?
<Only 20, 25% intervals; during the summers, once a week; none when the
water temp. falls below 55 F.>
I don't mind, I'm home all the time, so if it needs to be done, I'll do
it! In the house we did 20-25% water changes per week regularly.
<Ah, good>
The water may not be as warm as it should be for fancy goldfish,....it's
been a very cold spring and early summer. For a few days it got hot here
and we thought it would stay warm, so we put them back in from being
indoors for the winter. I suppose we could ad a heater to the pond if
you think it might have caused the problem. If it even is a problem. I
don't know what to think He is happy, active, eating well and swimming
normally. None of the other seem to have white bumps yet.
We have been feeding them Goldfish Crisps,...but after reading on your
goldfish site, i have ordered the Spectrum Goldfish pellets and will use
those instead.
(I use spectrum for my reef tanks too.)
<I do as well; a fine product>
Unfortunately I can't get good pictures of it now in the pond. I hope my
description helps.
So, is this a normal thing that happens on Wens sometimes? Or is it a
nasty
bug that I need to kill off?
<The former>
This same fish had some red lines in his tail while he was in the tank
for the winter,....we thought he had caught it on something and had
bruised it, but now after reading your site it looks like it was fin
rot? Or a Fungus?
<Likely septicemia of a sort from simple stress>
It seemed to resolve on it's own though. The 6 were in a 75 gallon tank,
and we tested regularly, so I don't believe it was water quality.
These chubby goldfish are like the Golden Retrievers of the fish world,
I'd be very sad if we lost one of them. They have so much personality!
Amanda Wilson in NJ, USA
<I would do nothing (overt) here. NOT treat, but be patient. Enjoy your
system, pets. Bob Fenner>
Re: Fancy Goldfish question....White bumps on the Wen?
6/15/19
Thanks again Bob! It's a zoo over here! LOL!
<My fave Mandy. BobF>
Mandy
Help with my fish telescope please
6/5/19
Hello,
<Raul>
I wanted to ask for help with my telescope fish, which had a small
point that moves during the day.
<A small point? I see murky/cloudy eyes... Likely due to issue/s w/ the
environment. Do you have water quality tests, data to share? What re the set up,
history of operation?>
I am enclosing a picture of my fish, please help me know what I can
have and what remedy I can treat. (in the lower part of his right eye)
<Please respond with useful information. Bob Fenner, Athens>
Attentative
To your comments.
Raúl Núñez - Chile
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Re: Help with my fish telescope please 6/6/19
Hello,
I wanted to ask for help with my telescope fish, which had a small point that
moves during the day.
<A small point? I see murky/cloudy eyes... Likely due to issue/s w/ the
environment. Do you have water quality tests, data to share? What re the
set up, history of operation?>
I am enclosing a picture of my fish, please help me know what I can
have and what remedy I can treat. (in the lower part of his right eye)
Thank you.
Regards.
Raúl N.
<This appears to be an inclusion of some sort.... does happen. Nothing to do
re... not to treat. BobF>
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Re: Help with my fish telescope please
6/8/19
Dear,
<This appears to be an inclusion of some sort.... does happen. Nothing to do
re... not to treat. BobF>
R: There is no remedy that can help eliminate these balls? already has 2 in
one eye and 1 in another eye.
<... one last time hopefully: What are your water quality measures? What re
the set up here? Filtration in particular, the history of the set up? BobF>
Please your help, I will appreciate it.
Attentative to your comments.
Raúl N.
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Goldfish has bumps; a paucity of useful information
4/26/19
I have a 10 year old goldfish that showed signs of these bumps a couple years
ago.
Seem to progressively get worse, as in more prominent, and addition of newer
ones.
<Happens; mostly from too small confines, negative feedback from... metabolite
poisoning. Lack of sufficient filtration, water changes... >
Now some of the older ones look as though they’re a pimple that’s ready to
burst, with a white head sticking out.
<Uhh.... data please... the system, water quality tests.... foods/feeding>
One new one appeared on the edge of it’s “cheek” - the thing that covers the
gills. I either never noticed the bump, or its been there and it too looks like
something white sticking out. They’re not worms.
Fish acts perfectly fine, hardy appetite, active, the biggest of the three.
Do you know what these bumps are? Any treatment? I thought they might be warts,
but I don’t think so.
Thank you
Marsha
<... see/search WWM re... MANY inputs already archived there. Otherwise, GIGO...
Information. Bob Fenner>
Help! Swollen goldfish lip 3/24/19
Hi,
<Ave Maria>
I’m in desperate need of advice. I have a goldfish, Kyle, who is approximately
14 years old. A couple of years ago he injured his lip. I ended
up removing all decorative rocks from his tank because it seemed like at least
once a month he would re-traumatize it. Unfortunately that did not stop it from
happening. It will get very bruised (pictures attached) and after about a week
the busing subsides but his lip remains swollen. For the past year he has now
formed a giant bump on his lip which sometimes swells with fluid and will
eventually pop. Whenever it becomes an open sore or gets really bruised,
I treat his tank with Melafix and stress coat+ for at least a week.
<The Melafix is worse than worthless...>
The ammonia levels in his tank are low as well.
<Needs to be 0.0...>
This time I have noticed that it has become more difficult for him to suck food
off the bottom of the tank, which normally isn’t an issue. I’ve been hand
feeding him the past week hoping he’ll get better. He definitely has not been
his perky self lately. Is there anything else I should be doing? Could this
possibly be a tumor or is it from all of the traumatization that has been done?
<The "Fix" is likely poisoning the fish, along w/ any ammonia... but; older
gold/fish DO have (more) persistent "growth" problems with age (along w/
challenging environments, lack of nutrition factors)>
I’m in desperate need of help or advise. This little guy has been with me for a
long time and I don’t want him to be in pain. Any help will be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks
Maria Holland
<Please read here re others gf experiences of similar kind:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/GFGrowthsF7.htm
and the linked files above... Bob Fenner>
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Ebony, a fish with fin slits
This is Ebony, she is a sweetheart.
<Hi Jade; the file/image isn't coming up. Would you please attach it here/ with
your mail?>
I got her from Wal-Mart. She lives in a ten gallon tank with a larger fish and
another very small fish. I feed her pellets and fish flakes. I sometimes hand
feed them. There's only fake plants. I do a 25% water change every two days and
I clean the entire tank at least once every two months. She has a water filter
and bubblier. I use a water clarifier and a stress coat as directed. I currently
do not have a water heater. I am afraid that there is something wrong with her.
She appears to have some slits (2) in her tail and her entire left fin seems to
have many slits throughout it and its worn down around the outside.
What do you think is wrong with her and what can I do to help her at home?
Thanks.
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Re: Ebony, a fish with fin slits
Is this good?
<Yes; other than the file being an order of magnitude too large. I see your
goldfish... Likely the issue here is environmental. Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/gldfshsystems.htm
and the linked files above. It is very hard to keep a small system stable and
optimized for goldfish.
Bob Fenner>
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Goldfish Listless need help /RMF
2/19/19
Hi and thanks for your help,
I have a 22 year old goldfish who has been very listless at bottom of
tank for about 1 week. He will eat if encouraged but does not come to
eat unless encouraged. He's in a 55 gallon tank had ph 7.5 I buy spring
water for his tank have for 8 years.
<Mmm; does this store-bought water have sufficient hardness,
alkalinity?>
no nitrite or ammonia in tank. Some nitrate but not above 40ppm.
<Do please see WWM re Nitrate control. I would strive to keep this under
20 ppm>
His scales fins look good and his eyes. His fins are clamped though. I
change water every 12 days to two weeks max. I use a bit of aquarium
salt but not to excess about 1 tablespoon per ten to 15 gallons.
I treated him for parasites as he had a very long white poop and clamped
fins. But the treatment didn't help. ( called general cure by API).
<Am familiar>
Is constipation the problem ?
<Doubtful; almost assuredly environmental; the Nitrate et al.>
I am not feeding him his normal tetra flake food now. I fed him a few
baby organic spinach leaves I had boiled first yesterday. Nothing today
yet. When he does swim he looks fine. He is not breathing heavily. His
gills appear normal. He isn't breathing very obviously. He is normal in
color - a large /white fish about the size of my hand. He had seemed
slightly bloated but he has never been thin so can't tell if he actually
was bloated or not. He ate the spinach offered last night.
Thank you !
Lina and Fishy
<Were it mine, I'd execute a good sized water change (perhaps 15-20
gallons); add some sodium bicarbonate (maybe five teaspoons, mixed in
the new water), and (try to) be patient.
<Goldfish do "go through spells" of inactivity at time; though likely
metabolite poisoning is at play here a bit... most easily reduced via
dilution/water change, addition of a bit of bicarb., and salt.
Bob Fenner>
Goldfish Listless need help /Neale 2/19/19
Hi and thanks for your help, I have a 22 year old goldfish who has been
very listless at bottom of tank for about 1 week. He will eat if
encouraged but does not come to eat unless encouraged. He's in a 55
gallon tank had ph 7.5 I buy spring water for his tank have for 8 years
. no nitrite or ammonia in tank. Some nitrate but not above 40ppm. His
scales fins look good and his eyes. His fins are clamped though. I
change water every 12 days to two weeks max. I use a bit of aquarium
salt but not to excess about 1 tablespoon per ten to 15 gallons. I
treated him for parasites as he had a very long white poop and clamped
fins. But the treatment didn't help. (
called general cure by API). Is constipation the problem ?
<Certainly sounds like one possibility. Listlessness, lack of appetite,
and long stringy faeces can be indicators of constipation. Do read:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/gldfshmalnut.htm
Going to suggest some further reading, re: diet, housing, etc., here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/goldfish101art.htm
Most problems with Goldfish are caused by diet and environment; while
infections do occur, they're rare, and when they do happen, there's
usually some environmental or dietary cause.>
I am not feeding him his normal tetra flake food now. I fed him a few
baby organic spinach leaves I had boiled first yesterday. Nothing today
yet.
When he does swim he looks fine. He is not breathing heavily. His gills
appear normal. He isn't breathing very obviously. He is normal in color
- a large /white fish about the size of my hand. He had seemed slightly
bloated but he has never been thin so can't tell if he actually was
bloated or not.
He ate the spinach offered last night.
<Well, that's promising! Do also try cooked peas, squished to make them
easier to eat. Many other green foods will be eaten; see above links.>
Thank you !
Lina and Fishy
<Hope this helps. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Goldfish Listless need help 2/19/19
Thank you so much !! He is better this afternoon so I fed him his usual
but not as much as usual. I will start adding greens with his food a few
times per week
<Real good>
The water has never been a problem but air am testing it now for
alkalinity. I had added some more aquarium salt this morning. Thank you
Thank you thank you ! PS I've added a Nitrazorb pouch to his filter to
bring the nitrates down. Lina
<Very good indeed. Thank you DW II! BobF>
Re: Goldfish Listless need help 2/19/19
Hi Bob I tested the tank water for KH it is 5 degrees or about 100ppm
according to the test kit and the GH is 11 degrees or about 200ppm. but
Every time I do test the PH it is 7.4 exactly. What do you think ?
<These values are okay... Is your tap/source water not suitable by
itself?
Bottled water is not only inconvenient and expensive, but often
unnecessary. DO you drink, cook w/ your tap water? If so, it is fine for
your aquarium use. DO read on WWM re water treatment>
My 22 year old gold fish has revived a lot today. Don't want to mess up
his health as it seems improving from yesterday and last week. The tap
water here is terrible so I have been buying natural spring water which
I always test called Earth20. Supposedly it is 100 percent natural
spring water from Opal Springs Culver Oregon. Have been using this same
brand for 8 years in the tank with fine result.
Thanks again for your input !
Luna ( dancer and fish enthusiast. - but I am not a scientist although I
do try !)
<Cheers Lina. BobF>
Re: Goldfish Listless need help 2/19/19
Thank you No I don't drink the tapwater it is 14 ph !
<.... Mmm; not this basic I'd warrant... Like drinking drain or oven
cleaner... but you make the point>
It's an old well. I drink what the fish drinks. Thank you for the input
on those values.
Cheers.! Lina Downes
<Cheers Lina. BobF>
Re: Goldfish Listless need help
3/5/19
Hi Bob. - Hope you are well. Lina here again.
<Yes Lina; thank you>
My fish tank water reads perfectly and my goldfish of 22 years is getting better
slowly. But that's because I gave up on just salt and water changes and added
Maracyn 2 as directed.
<Ah good>
My fish had a couple symptoms that I didn't see right away - one of his front
fins looks like it is partially
torn and his left eye has a whitish circular discoloration where the iris would
be. He is eating now is no longer listless but his 2 above symptoms look almost
the same after the 5 th day of Maracyn 2 treatment. I am changing out the water
tonight putting in new filters etc. should I wait a few days and try the Maracyn
2 again or just stop meds altogether and wait longer ?
<I would use either/both Maracyn products for three consecutive treatments,
three days apart, with substantial water changes twixt re-treatments>
Also I am feeding him small bits of some boiled organic spinach to supplement
his regular flake food. ( He likes it.) Unfortunately I have to travel to Dubai
and Nepal from March 11 to April 4 to work and Fishy will be in the hands of a
pet minder so I am desperately trying to get his health back up to normal before
my trip. The Maracyn 2 seemed to help. - he is better But not 100 per cent. But
the little white bit on his eye is still there. I think his fin will heal I have
stress coat and will use it with this 25 per cent H20 change tonight.
Thank you for your advice !!! Lina
<I say steady on w/ this plan. BobF>
What’s wrong with my fantail goldfish?
1/29/19
Hey there,
<Hi Liam>
A couple of weeks ago i noticed a biggish lump coming out of the back of my
fantail.
<I see this in your excellent photo>
I thought it may have been a tumor or Lymphocystis at first however within a
couple days it had disappeared and i thought it had gone away. Yesterday, the
lump came back out of nowhere bigger than ever, and it slower started to pierce
the fish’s skin. As you can see in the photo below, a large white mass appeared
and it hung on to the fish for a while.
I separated the fish into a spawning net so that the other fish wouldn't try to
attack it. After a while i decided to see if it was going to all come out so i
tried to remove it with tweezers, however before i got a chance to the fish was
swimming erratically and it came off by itself, leaving a large hole in the
fish. I tried to remove the soft white lump however the fish ate it before i got
the chance!! I was looking around on the internet and in my aquarium books for
possible explanations to why this had happened and
the conclusion i have come to is that it is caused by a bacteria.
<May be>
im currently performing 50% water changes each day for the rest of the week to
help clear the water. I have a 110 litre Juwel fish tank with a medium cirax
filter and a medium bioplus fine filter. I have 1 Plecostomus
<Keep your eye on this suckermouth catfish. They have a penchant for
"riding"/sucking on the sides of goldfish, other slow fishes>
and 6 goldfish; 2 are about 3 inches, 3 are about 2 inches and 1 is about an
inch.
<Mmm; well; you're going to need more room as these goldfish (and Pleco) get
larger>
I also have plenty of live plants to help keep nitrates and ammonia low.
<Ammonia (and nitrite) MUST be kept at zero. DO cut back/out feeding, remove
some fishes, look to adding filtration, getting a larger system if NH3/NH4OH
can't be kept at zip.>
It was very hard to find info about this and i have ordered some bacterial
treatment so if you know anything that could help i would appreciate it :)
I hope to hear back from you soon!
Liam Wigmore
<Well, this growth might be viral in origin; mediated (as always) by factors in
the environment, nutrition.
Have you read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/GFGrowthsF7.htm
and the linked files above in the same FAQs series? Please do so for review. Bob
Fenner>
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Re: What’s wrong with my fantail goldfish?
1/31/19
Thanks for getting back to me so quick!
<Welcome Liam>
Since the pus eruption the wound seems to have healed perfectly and there
are no signs of a fungal infection yet. I had a look at the webpage you
recommended and the original lump look like the post from 9/17/16 called
‘can goldfish develop tumors’. In that case i saw that the goldfish was
substantially older, mine is around 2 years old and there's was 16/17.
However i noticed that it was the same type of goldfish so perhaps there's
some correlation?
<Mmm; well; "fancier" goldfish varieties do seem to incur these issues more
readily>
I've have ordered the interpret goldfish disease treatment which says that
it’s an all in one treatment for fungi, bacteria and parasites. Im going to
treat the whole aquarium with this is that recommended?
<If you like. Am not a fan, promoter of "shot gun approaches" to medicine
application. I am a user of such when the actual pathogen is identifiable,
identified>
Furthermore, i have ordered some test tubes so that i can test my ammonia
again.
<Good>
I have an API test kit. Also, i know that my nitrite is always at zero as i
test the water once a week after water changes. If there is any other advice
you can offer such as medicines i would be grateful. Im from the UK so i
know that some treatments are restricted here.
<I am going to ask friend and fellow WWM crew member, Neale Monks to chime
in here. He too lives in the UK>
Thanks again :)
Liam Wigmore
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Re: What’s wrong with my fantail goldfish? 1/31/19
Thanks, i hope to hear from you soon :)
Liam
<IF it were mine, I'd simply look to provide/maintain good water quality and
nutrition. NOT treat with medicines. Cheers Liam. BobF>
Re: What’s wrong with my fantail goldfish? /Neale
1/31/19
Thanks for getting back to me so quick!
Since the pus eruption the wound seems to have healed perfectly and there
are no signs of a fungal infection yet. I had a look at the webpage you
recommended and the original lump look like the post from 9/17/16 called
‘can goldfish develop tumors’. In that case i saw that the goldfish was
substantially older, mine is around 2 years old and there's was 16/17.
However i noticed that it was the same type of goldfish so perhaps there's
some correlation? I've have ordered the interpret goldfish disease treatment
which says that it’s an all in one treatment for fungi, bacteria and
parasites. Im going to treat the whole aquarium with this is that
recommended? Furthermore, i have ordered some test tubes so that I can test
my ammonia again. I have an API test kit. Also, i know that my nitrite is
always at zero as i test the water once a week after water changes. If there
is any other advice you can offer such as medicines i would be grateful. Im
from the UK so i know that some treatments are restricted here.
Thanks again :)
Liam
<<Nothing much to add to BobF's comments. Hard to know if the growth is
viral, cancerous or other. So far as UK medications go, there isn't anything
for viral infections that I'm aware of. Viral infections either heal by
themselves or they don't. There is something called Carp Pox that sometimes
affects Goldfish. Forms lesions or sores. No treatment as such, but usually
self-heals. Some aquarists treat as per Finrot (e.g., using eSHa 2000 or
similar) but that shouldn't be necessary if conditions and diet are good.
Carp Pox is mildly contagious, but like a lot of viral infections is more
likely when the fish are stressed: in particular low temperatures can
trigger it. Keeping the tank at 18-22 C will help the fish's immune system
get rid of the virus. Carp Pox is sometimes contrasted with the KHV virus an
extremely aggressive and almost always fatal vial disease of Carp and
related fishes, including Goldfish. Cheers, Neale.>>
Re: What’s wrong with my fantail goldfish?
2/1/19
Thanks for getting back to me so quick!
<Welcome.>
Since the pus eruption the wound seems to have healed perfectly and there are no
signs of a fungal infection yet. I had a look at the webpage you recommended and
the original lump look like the post from 9/17/16 called ‘can goldfish develop
tumors’. In that case i saw that the goldfish was substantially older, mine is
around 2 years old and there's was 16/17. However i noticed that it was the same
type of goldfish so perhaps there's some correlation?
<Unlikely. They're all the same species. But possible I suppose.>
I've have ordered the interpret goldfish disease treatment which says that it’s
an all in one treatment for fungi, bacteria and parasites.
<It's a fairly generic medication for Whitespot and Finrot. Wouldn't put a lot
of faith in it, but it might just prevent secondary infections.>
Im going to treat the whole aquarium with this is that recommended?
<Not really, but shouldn't do any harm. Generally, we don't recommend medicating
unless you [a] know what disease you're dealing with; and [b] know the best
medication for that disease. The problem with the scattergun approach is there's
a real risk of poisoning the fish if medications are used too often, or in
combination with each other.>
Furthermore, i have ordered some test tubes so that I can test my ammonia again.
I have an API test kit. Also, i know that my nitrite is always at zero as i test
the water once a week after water changes.
<If nitrite is zero, ammonia is probably zero, though do of course check for
"false positive" ammonia readings by looking to see if your tap water has
ammonia in it. If it does, then make sure your water condition neutralises
ammonia (most do) and you can then ignore low levels of ammonia in the tank if
nitrite is zero and the fish are otherwise fine.>
If there is any other advice you can offer such as medicines i would be
grateful. Im from the UK so i know that some treatments are restricted here.
Thanks again :)
Liam
<Hope this helps. Neale.>
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Goldfish Bubbles-Scales
12/13/18
My goldfish summer in a 100+ gal ornamental pond, and winter in a 55 gal
aquarium.
I have 4 fish about 4" long body.
In Oct. I brought them in - one was bloated and had several
clear bubbles on each side the size of a small pea. The bubbles
could be a puffed out scale - hard to tell.
He did not get better, so I isolated him in a 5 gal bucket and added 1/8
tablespoon of Epsom salt.
Anything else i can do?
Thanks! Scot
<At this juncture, no... best to keep up water quality by frequent
partial water changes (a couple times weekly), with pre-stored water.
The bubbles?
Perhaps Emphysematosis, gas-bubble disease... environmental. Do use the
search tool on WWM to read a bit about. Bob Fenner>
Re: Goldfish Bubbles-Scales 1/25/19
Just wanted to thank you for your site!
I put the fish back in with his mates in the aquarium after several days
after in the quarantine Epsom-salt bucket. He's much happier there.
Bubbles are gone and he looks normal.
<Ah good. Thank you for this update. Bob Fenner>
Goldfish Urgent Help Needed
12/3/18
Hi - I have a gold fish that has had swim bladder issues. I have a 40
gallon tank with 2 goldish who are about 7 inches each.
<Okay>
We went away for Thanksgiving and when I came back my ornamental
goldfish Superfish was super bloated and hanging on the bottom of the
tank.
<... Fed what?>
I went to the store and they said my ammonia is too high.
<What sort of filtration do you employ on your 40 gal.?>
I had changed the water and the filters when I got home and apparently
took out all of the good bacteria.
<Happens. Do see WWM re goldfish et al. system maintenance, water
changes.
Best to not change out more than abut 25% per week, WITH pre-stored
treated or not new water>
They gave me some bacteria to put in the tank - and I have also put
Epsom salt in the tank. I tried feeding them peas but he has not eaten
anything for days.
<Better to not feed when/if ammonia is present>
He is now on his side barely breathing and my heart is breaking. Is
there anything I can do?
<Do you have ammonia, nitrite, nitrate test kits? I would get and use
simple colorimetric ones. NOT feed flake foods...>
Thank you for your kindness,
Trish
<Very glad to try, help you and your ailing fish. Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/gldfshmalnut.htm
and search on WWM (tool on every page) for "goldfish ammonia burn". Bob
Fenner>
Re: Goldfish Urgent Help Needed 12/4/18
He died last night
<Ahh>
What can I do to save his friend? He is ok now but I guess the water is
bad.
<The same as previous sent, test kits, water changes... no flake food>
Should I take him out?
<The dead fish, yes; the live one, no; unless you have another
established system of size to place it in alternatively. BobF>
Help please; GF... damage, infection 10/24/18
Hi Support team, You might be able to help me save my Oranda.
About a week ago I noticed an unusual wound on my lionhead Oranda, it is right
at the end of its spine were the tail starts. The wound is about 8mm in diameter
and about 3 mm deep.
It is eating well, and hasn't changed behaviour, but I believe he is suffering.
I have attached a few pictures of it to this email for your reference. I would
really appreciate it if you could help me to save my Oranda.
Regards
Rahim
<I do wonder what caused this damage initially Rahim? A physical trauma?
The issue now appears to be bacterial and so I suggest: #1, checking your water
quality and gear to keep it up: your water should be at least slightly alkaline,
have moderate hardness and a lack of ammonia, nitrite and no more than 20 ppm of
nitrate; CLEAN your filters and filter media. 2) Administer an antibiotic; can
you get Kanamycin where you are? If not eSHa 2000 product. Given good, clean
water and time your Oranda should recover; though the missing fin area looks
like it is too far gone to regenerate. Bob Fenner>
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GF ish, no data, reading...
10/16/18
Any ideas what is wrong with this fish? Dark spots and hanging out at the
bottom.
<Mmm; appears to be septicemic... burnt... Water quality issue? What's your test
kits readings telling you? What re set up, maintenance, foods, feeding? Have you
read re on WWM? Do so. Bob Fenner>
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Please help... GF hlth, no data
10/3/18
Could you please tell me he still have chance.
[image1.jpeg]
His tail suddenly gone bend
Kind regards
Natalie
<... something/s wrong w/ this fish's world. What re water quality (tests) and
nutrition?
Bob Fenner>
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Re: Please help AGAIN 10/4/18
Thank you for getting back to me, he is in a box I called hospital tank, a
Interpet mini filter, without carbon foam, in operation, nothing inside, Nitrate
and nitrite higher than normal,
<? What are the levels, values?>
can’t change much water as JUST finished Interpet anti internal bacterial 7 days
course treatment, a little bit complicated, treatments as follow
About one week after the rescued, found this poor guy slightly bloat with white
waste, so I set up a hospital tank and start with:
Treatment 1. API General Cure- Not success and condition stay the same.
Treatment 2. Interpet Anti internal bacterial - Not success and bloat a bit
more.
Treatment 3. Waterlife (Hole in the head and bloat) tablets - Not success
Treatment 4. Repeat Waterlife medicine, nearly kill her, health condition much
worsen (I blamed myself for listening to the Reviews from customer suggested 5
times more dosage.) now, whole body covered with black marks.
Treatment 5. Back to Treatment no.2, (Interpet) this time better, 80% marks gone
as seen in previous photo I sent you, but his tail bends.
I think it is Malawi Bloat not Dropsy because he bloat with white waste, swims
well and eat normal, but once again, I do not have any experience, I really rely
on Google search.
Please help this poor soul, I just rescued him from an extremely poor water
quality pond
<THIS is the cause of this fish's troubles. NEED good care, water quality,
nutrition for weeks, months to recover, NOT treatments/medicines>
and the rescuing process broken my heart although I don’t really a fish person,
I beg god he deserves a better life after all.
Kind regards
Natalie
<Need data, useful information... as previously requested. BobF>
Re: Please help AGAIN... 13 megs of pix....
10/4/18
Sorry but what is nutrition? I really don’t know.
<Foods, feeding Nat. What are you using?>
Tank water is 35 litre, water depth about 6 inches.
I am going to change 100 %water as the NO 2 is at 1 and NO 3 at
5 according to API Test stripe result.
<I would skip feeding period if ammonia or nitrite are present>
Could you kindly tell me how to add nutrition in the tank?
<A low protein staple is best here. Pellets or sticks of small size. You
can/could read about this on WWM>
As you can see there is another one behind it, it has black marks and cotton
mouth, been treating with API PIMAFIX AND MELAFIX together for a month
already, symptoms still exist.
Regarding to the tank, it has 50 litres water, I change 25% water every other
day.
Also for both tanks, I put Interpret first aid salt + and API Stress Coat in the
water.
Apart from the one being murdered by the heron that are the only two trouble
ones amongst 60 of them.
Kind regards
Natalie
<This fish simply needs good conditions, no treatments. I'd
return it to the system the other goldfish are in. Being kept in a small volume,
too much water changing... is not helping. Bob Fenner>
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Orange scales now with black tips on goldfish
9/2/18
Dear crew:
<Hey Luis>
I am writing to ask of is normal that an Orange carassius can turn its scales
with black tips?, I don’t really know of it is normal. Please see the
attachments.
<Have seen your excellent pix; not only the edge-darkened scales, but apparent
"pine coning" of the flank scales is worrisome. There are a few possible causes,
influences here, but water quality and nutrition I should mention. Your goldfish
may have an internal bacterial infection; but this is caused by something/s
amiss w/ foods and/or aspects of the environment. Please do check re the
presence of ammonia, nitrite in particular, and switch to a near all plant
matter diet for the next few weeks. Take a look on WWM and the Net re pine-cone
disease as well>
Kind regards,
Luis Prado
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
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*Biólogo Marino*
*Acuarios Chile*
Bilbao #3836, Santiago |
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Re: Orange scales now with black tips on goldfish
9/2/18
Thank you very much for your kind and quick reply. I will proceed following your
advice.
<Ahh; do take heart Luis. These "dropsy" cases can be cured in time>
Kind regards,
Luis Prado
<And you, Bob Fenner>
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Carassius pop eye 5/12/18
Hello, I’m Maite, and I have a fish with a strange bubble in the eye, I search
everywhere to know what It is, but I didn't find anything. So I write to You, if
You know something about this. It is acting weird this days, it stays hidden
behind the filter, and the skin is getting whiter.
Thanks.
This is an image of my fish
<The eyes of fishes are highly vascularized... lots of blood vessels, flow
there. This fact is capitalized on in the "breeds" of goldfish with bulbous
eyes. Yours here may have suffered an injury, but I suspect it is just of poor
genetic stock. There is no sure cure for this condition... You might want to try
Epsom Salt (see WWM re).
If the fish doesn't cure... it will likely perish.
Bob Fenner>
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